Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

VIDEO - Bell V-280 Valor Reaches 80 Knots (New tilt-rotar aircraft)
YouTube, Bell Helicopter Corp. channel ^ | Feb 6th, 2018 | Staff

Posted on 02/08/2018 5:58:07 PM PST by gaijin

2-min YouTube video showing V-280 Valor well out of hover.

Nacelles are not yet fully rotated forward, as pictured above, but clip shows project coming along nicely.

Nacelles feature rotational gear overlaid with video MOSAIC, apparently this feature is still technically sensitive;

Osprey nacelles rotate as an integrated unit, Valor nacelles are bisected into fixed and rotational subcomponents.


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; bell; chat; osprey; v280
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

1 posted on 02/08/2018 5:58:07 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: gaijin

https://youtu.be/YK7eX4s8YIg?t=86


2 posted on 02/08/2018 5:58:23 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin
The V-280 has a more sensible engine layout that doesn't translate from vertical to horizontal with the rotors. Much easier on the engine, and avoids the deck/taxiway heating issue that the V-22 has.

And every video I've seen so far has had the flexible shaft joint at the articulation blurred out deliberately. I wonder what "magic" Bell has come up with to handle the torque required to drive the rotors, yet be able to articulate through 90+ degrees.

3 posted on 02/08/2018 6:04:18 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

Valor is right. You need balls of steel to fly in this contraption.


4 posted on 02/08/2018 6:05:11 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

When this tech finally comes to the civvy side, execs could fly from LA to San Fran, then land atop a tall building, no taxi or car rental required.

Cool..!


5 posted on 02/08/2018 6:07:53 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zhang Fei
You need balls of steel to fly in this contraption.

A helicopter is already 1000's of moving pieces waiting to fall apart. I can only imagine what this thing is.

6 posted on 02/08/2018 6:30:25 PM PST by llevrok (DACA = Democrats Against Citizen Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

The video shows a helicopter. What’s the point or releasing this video without showing horizontal flight?


7 posted on 02/08/2018 6:31:57 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Yollopoliuhqui

Cuz up until now, all other vids either show the Valor taxiing or hopping up and down a little —sorta boring.


8 posted on 02/08/2018 6:35:01 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Yollopoliuhqui
The video shows a helicopter. What’s the point or releasing this video without showing horizontal flight?

Possibly because they are proceeding very deliberately through a test protocol that involves advancing the engines a little bit more on every flight.

They want to make sure that once they put the engines in the full-forward position, they can definitely bring them back into the vertical position.

Typically flight testing on a prototype is done very, very carefully. This goes double for aircraft of a new type, or that are using a new technology. In this case, there is new technology in a flight-critical system, namely the rotor tilt mechanism.

Also, they don't want a repeat of the painful development process of the V-22, during which there were several fatalities (followed by many more fatalities once the system had been accepted by the military).

9 posted on 02/08/2018 6:58:43 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

Too many Jesus nuts.


10 posted on 02/08/2018 7:37:49 PM PST by Noumenon (It isn't racist if it's true, is it?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

I hope it’s quieter than an Osprey at 30 degree rotor tilt.


11 posted on 02/08/2018 7:46:21 PM PST by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: llevrok

>>A helicopter is already 1000’s of moving pieces waiting to fall apart.<<

Best definition of a helicopter I’ve ever read.


12 posted on 02/08/2018 7:53:43 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: gaijin

Thanks for the posting, gaijin.

I’m a Bell retiree (’65-’01) and I worked on the development and deployment of the XV-15 and the V-22, and now the V-280 has been hatched.

Only two of the XV-15’s were produced to prove the concept. One was severely damaged when a tornado hit our flight research facility. The other one is in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in D.C.


13 posted on 02/08/2018 8:13:06 PM PST by octex
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

Bell has been going back and forth between tilting just the rotor or the entire nacelle for decades. Here are some images of the Bell XV-3 tilt rotor from the 1950s and 60s:

https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=AwrBT4ZSEn1av_kA9UppCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw—?q=bell+xv-3&v_t=comsearch

In the XV-3 case, the single radial piston engine was inside the fuselage just aft of the wing-fuselage junction with a transmission and drive shafts carrying power out to the wingtip counter rotating blade assemblies. With only one engine, the need for cross shafting between the rotors was eliminated since loss of engine torque would affect both rotors equally and not produce asymmetric rotor power.

That’s the problem with twin engine tilt rotor designs; it requires cross shafting from one nacelle to the other so that the rotor with the engine out can continue to receive power from the other engine. Makes for a complicated wing structure. (It’s even more complicated when the blades must fold and the entire wing must rotate to align with the fuselage for shipboard stowage purposes.)

If the VX-280 power plant/tilt rotor design is scalable to the MV-22, I suspect the Marine Corps and other users would only be too glad to get out of the tilting nacelle business. In the meantime, I hope a solution to the MV-22 deck/runway heating problem can be found. Perhaps a variation on the jet thrust reverser to redirect the heat (most of it anyway) upward where the turning rotors could disperse it?


14 posted on 02/08/2018 8:28:42 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Steely Tom
the painful development process of the V-22, during which there were several fatalities

In the current age of drone advanced remote control technology, why do they need to risk the lives of test pilots at all?

15 posted on 02/08/2018 8:35:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: NTHockey
Best definition of a helicopter I’ve ever read.

Ten thousand rivits, flying in formation.

16 posted on 02/08/2018 8:37:24 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: gaijin
When this tech finally comes to the civvy side, execs could fly from LA to San Fran, then land atop a tall building, no taxi or car rental required.

You seriously think the hippie commie scum will allow that in Frisco?

17 posted on 02/08/2018 8:50:09 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

Bell has been going back and forth between tilting just the rotor or the entire nacelle for decades. Here are some images of the Bell XV-3 tilt rotor from the 1950s and 60s:

https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=AwrBT4ZSEn1av_kA9UppCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw—?q=bell+xv-3&v_t=comsearch

In the XV-3 case, the single radial piston engine was inside the fuselage just aft of the wing-fuselage junction with a transmission and drive shafts carrying power out to the wingtip counter rotating blade assemblies. With only one engine, the need for cross shafting between the rotors was eliminated since loss of engine torque would affect both rotors equally and not produce asymmetric rotor power.

That’s the problem with twin engine tilt rotor designs; it requires cross shafting from one nacelle to the other so that the rotor with the engine out can continue to receive power from the other engine. Makes for a complicated wing structure. (It’s even more complicated when the blades must fold and the entire wing must rotate to align with the fuselage for shipboard stowage purposes.)

If the VX-280 power plant/tilt rotor design is scalable to the MV-22, I suspect the Marine Corps and other users would only be too glad to get out of the tilting nacelle business. In the meantime, I hope a solution to the MV-22 deck/runway heating problem can be found. Perhaps a variation on the jet thrust reverser to redirect the heat (most of it anyway) upward where the turning rotors could disperse it?


18 posted on 02/08/2018 9:04:03 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Yo-Yo

Looks like a V-22 sex with a Blackhawk. There’s some recessive V tail Bonanza genes on one side of the family.


19 posted on 02/08/2018 10:37:10 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Captain Rhino

Have they never considered a ducted fan design instead of rotors? At altitude, at least, troops could bail out in an emergency, without getting chopped to bits by the rotors.

Already, any rotor-failure looks like it’s going to instantly cut the fuselage in half.


20 posted on 02/09/2018 5:52:03 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson