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Nearly 30 horses found burned to death by Creek fire in Sylmar
l a times ^ | 12/06/2017 | Brittny Mejia

Posted on 12/06/2017 2:52:43 PM PST by BenLurkin

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1 posted on 12/06/2017 2:52:43 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

So sad..they showed last night on the news a horse that was burned 60 percent of his body..thank God it looks like he is going to make it..such beautiful creatures..RIP to these sweet horses who perished


2 posted on 12/06/2017 2:56:16 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BenLurkin

I sympathize. I am grateful I have animals whose size and location allow me to get them quickly and take them with me in almost any home emergency scenario.


3 posted on 12/06/2017 2:57:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BenLurkin

In 2016, during the Dog Head Fire in NM, the whole community worked to get horses and other livestock out of the danger area. People with trailers went repeatedly into the fire area. No animals were lost. A local ranch took them in and fed and cared for them for no cost. It’s just how we roll in the East Mountains.


4 posted on 12/06/2017 3:03:04 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin

Poor things

Mine are having an alfalfa snack right now in this cold snap

Awful

They so fear fire


5 posted on 12/06/2017 3:04:06 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: BenLurkin

Damn, why are these fires always starting in Cali? Is it the illegals or Islamo Nazis? I mean come on, every freakin’ year it seems to be the same thing with these fires and I know it ain’t no lighting and broken bottles doing this crap.


6 posted on 12/06/2017 3:05:53 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: BenLurkin

And the reason the owner didn’t evacuate the horses when the fire was first threatening was.... And they left them locked in their stalls with no hope of escape while they ran because....

No sympathy for these people. All sympathy for their animals.


7 posted on 12/06/2017 3:10:52 PM PST by mairdie
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

California is pretty much desert when you get right down to it. Much of the brush actually contains oil — such as creosote — because the dry conditions preclude them retaining water. So, when the environment is dry and the winds are blowing any little spark can set off a fire. I was born and raised in Southern California, and fires were an annual thing.


8 posted on 12/06/2017 3:13:55 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

>>In 2016, during the Dog Head Fire in NM, the whole community worked to get horses and other livestock out of the danger area. People with trailers went repeatedly into the fire area. No animals were lost. A local ranch took them in and fed and cared for them for no cost. It’s just how we roll in the East Mountains.<<

The logistics in that part of California are much more complex and there was very little time to do that. Most of the owners just opened the stable doors and let the horses use their instincts to flee properly.


9 posted on 12/06/2017 3:15:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Conservatives should do daily affirmations: reading/repeating the 9th and 10th Amendments)
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To: mairdie

“And they left them locked in their stalls”

That’s what PO’s me.

No reason you can’t go out and just open all the stalls and let them run for it. What’s the difference at that point?


10 posted on 12/06/2017 3:16:28 PM PST by Regulator
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To: BenLurkin

They only had to open the barn door.


11 posted on 12/06/2017 3:17:17 PM PST by Sixgun Symphony
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To: Regulator

There are some personality types that are very possessive. They can’t let property run free, they gotta have everything locked up for their peace of mind. Even when they know it will end like this.


12 posted on 12/06/2017 3:20:07 PM PST by Sixgun Symphony
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Good place to roll.....

I’m one half New Mexican which probably surprises folks given my particular southerness

Great grandpa and grandma buried in Artesia

Great uncle and aunt in vets cemtary off North Guadalupe in Santa Fe

Dad born in Artesia and his siblings in Carlsbad and Las Cruces

Mississippi folks out there building govt roads in the 20s though my great grandpa went there for asthma in 1890s while it was still territory and fairly wild

I love the state especially Chama area......

We used to own property north of Santa Fe and dad was friendly with the Murphy family who had the Pink Adobe back then

Rosalia the mom died about 7 years ago and was from New Orleans with Mississippi kin

I think her descendants just sold out for around 13 m

God bless


13 posted on 12/06/2017 3:20:54 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: BenLurkin

All they had to do was call the ASPCA-or ask some ranchers and they would have seen to it that those animals were taken out.


14 posted on 12/06/2017 3:21:05 PM PST by crz
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To: BenLurkin

Sad. I hope they died quickly.

But the writer of this piece, Lordy.

Example: One firetruck came and told them to leave.

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Who knew there was such an innovation in California? Talking firetrucks could prove quite useful.


15 posted on 12/06/2017 3:21:54 PM PST by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go. Dump McConnman, to)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Btw

Santa Fe is not as comfortable for conservatives as back in my youth of the 50s 60s and 70s when it was a cowboy town with Indians and art

Now it’s not hospitable to our kind


16 posted on 12/06/2017 3:22:18 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That’s what happens here too. The difference I think is the multitude of horse people and ranchers with trailers and ranches, big and small that can take them. From watching twitter mostly about the fire, the fires moved rapidly, without access for trailers to get in or enough trailers to handle the amount of livestock.

Most horse people hit the road to help in a heartbeat if they can, including just riding one out and leading others or turning them all loose.

It’s hard to say what happened here. It sounds like they waited too late do anything. The one time I had to evacuate, I had my trailer hooked up and both horses in it for an hour or so before orders came to evacuate.


17 posted on 12/06/2017 3:22:38 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: wardaddy

It’s a beautiful place, and away from the cities people really know how to pull together.


18 posted on 12/06/2017 3:24:56 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin

Question

Why not just let the horses run

Mine get out on occasion

We find them or the sheriff does and our local deputy horse wrangler trailers em back

One free retrieval annually

After that it’s 250 bucks per steed


19 posted on 12/06/2017 3:25:09 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Regulator; freedumb2003

Agreed

They know how to flee fire pretty much

It’s instinctive

I can’t say they can’t get confused and still trapped on the run but usually not


20 posted on 12/06/2017 3:26:54 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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