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Beyond the smoking gun: The new JFK files fill in 2 holes in the assassination story
jfkfacts.org ^ | 2017 | Jeff Morley

Posted on 10/22/2017 12:22:45 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: MichaelCorleone

Uh, no.


61 posted on 10/22/2017 2:03:12 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: PLMerite

Based on what I’ve just read, Newman has uncovered some pretty amazing facts regarding the CIA’s relationship with LHO. He spoke at a conference in 1999, whereby the whole Oswald Trip to Mexico City at the Cuban or Russian Embassy gets shredded.

Less than 24 hrs of LHO being declared the ‘lonewolf’ the CIA begins misplacing or erasing tapes from their office in Mexico and denying access to photographic evidence.

“The CIA never released the photos from the special “pulse camera” which they had just installed to watch the Cuban Consulate, shortly before Oswald’s visit.

Worse, when the HSCA asked for the “pulse camera” photos, the CIA replied, falsely, that this camera had not been in operation until three months later. See Lopez report, 13-30; footnote 363 on p. A-25, as quoted in Deep Politics II: Essays on Oswald, Mexico, and Cuba, (Grand Prairie, JFK Lancer, 1998, 2nd Printing). p. 9]

http://www.jfklancer.com/backes/newman/newman_1.htm


62 posted on 10/22/2017 2:04:06 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: odawg

All the doctors who actually attended JFK said the autopsy photos were consistent with what they saw in the operating room. Crenshaw was a publicity hound.


63 posted on 10/22/2017 2:04:34 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Lol wut? Those guys don’t accidentally discharge their weapons.


64 posted on 10/22/2017 2:08:36 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: DJ Taylor

It was not a 100 yard shot. It was an 81 yard shot.


65 posted on 10/22/2017 2:10:17 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; CodeToad

We wouldn’t have needed a non-entity like Oswald. At the time all of this was going on we had a mole who was routinely in personal contact with the top leadership of the Kremlin. Morris Childs, a CPUSA official, who secretly began working for the FBI in 1958. He was our most valuable spy during the entire Cold War.

Childs was in fact in Moscow when Kennedy was assassinated. Through him we know the reaction of the Soviet leaders- they were as shocked as we were and were trying to come up with who they thought must have done it.

Oswald’s love of Communism wasn’t an act. He was fascinated with Russia and had been haranguing his fellow Marines with communist propaganda while he was in the service- they hung the name ‘Osvaldovich’ on him. This was 1956-59, before he moved to Russia and applied for citzenship, which they denied, although they allowed him to live there.


66 posted on 10/22/2017 2:18:04 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The conspiracy nuts will immediately demand the release of the “real files”. You know, the ones that prove a conspiracy.


67 posted on 10/22/2017 2:22:42 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: FreedomStar3028
"Those guys don’t accidentally discharge their weapons."

You're right. When they do it, they call it a negligent discharge.

68 posted on 10/22/2017 2:28:23 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Monterrosa-24; DJ Taylor

Too bad Freeper “leadpenny” isn’t around anymore to discus this JFK thread.


69 posted on 10/22/2017 2:29:49 PM PDT by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: DJ Taylor

2009. I was 62 yo. Elk hunt. M1A standard grade with military sights. Reloaded 7.62 for hunting. 84 yards to the four inch wide neck at the base of the skull. (That was all that was presented.) Five degree downhill shot with the animal walking straight towards me. Standing, off-hand with no sling assist. Bullseye. Sight picture when the round went off was perfect.

Luck or training? Both. My point being I cannot dismiss Oswald based solely upon his prior lack of ability and his equipment. It was only a hundred yards or so and the rifle was scoped. Look for information regarding accuracy of that rifle when test fired after the fact. Was it?


70 posted on 10/22/2017 2:32:01 PM PDT by chulaivn66 (Oh stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, trusting their words.)
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To: WashingtonFire; Yaelle

Don’t hold your breath. His days look very limited based upon his appearance. In the documentation, Bush is likely referred to by some obscure cryptonym anyway and has no reputation for terminal work.

However, he was very involved with the Cuban ex-pats & Operation Mongoose, BoPigs. That much we know for a fact. And those men surface more than anecdotally in a cursory search in the existing JFK research records. Those guys were itching to retaliate and did not need any coaxing, just the golden opportunity. Same for the mob enemies.


71 posted on 10/22/2017 2:32:26 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
They also illuminate the illegal actions of government officials to conceal the CIA’s manipulation of Oswald and its plot to kill Fidel Castro in late 1963....

I've long thought that Kennedy and Castro were trying to have the other killed. Castro won.

72 posted on 10/22/2017 2:33:36 PM PDT by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Wasn’t there a book pushing that theory? That has always sounded plausible to me based on Occam’s razor. If there really was something explosive being covered up, then wouldn’t you think that either a right-wing (Nixon, Reagan) or left-wing (Clinton, Obama) administration would want the truth exposed? Saving this guy’s family from disgrace sounds like the only argument for keeping quiet that everyone would agree to. Especially since its revelation would not advance any cause one way or the other.


73 posted on 10/22/2017 2:36:07 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: odawg

Thank you. Very interesting. The question I have is, why would the CIA or others want to assassinate President Kennedy? I have heard rumors that he was going to expose the Federal Reserve and the central banks’ crimes.


74 posted on 10/22/2017 2:42:02 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: PlateOfShrimp

I saw the film on Netflix a few years back...

Was John F. Kennedy Accidentally Shot And Killed By A Secret Service Agent?

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/was-john-f-kennedy-accidentally-shot-and-killed-secret-service-agent


75 posted on 10/22/2017 2:42:42 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: FreedomStar3028

No laughing matter...

A new documentary makes the startling claim that former president John F. Kennedy was shot and killed by a Secret Service agent by accident.
The documentary titled “JFK: The Smoking Gun” claims that George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind Kennedy, accidentally fired his weapon on Nov. 22, 1963.

The new documentary is based on the work of Colin McLaren, a veteran police detective who has undertaken a four-year investigation into the killing of Kennedy.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/was-john-f-kennedy-accidentally-shot-and-killed-secret-service-agent


76 posted on 10/22/2017 2:44:43 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: odawg

Have you watched the Zapruder film? Looks like the had shot was from the rear with blood gushing out of his face.


77 posted on 10/22/2017 2:50:57 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: fulltlt

had = head


78 posted on 10/22/2017 2:54:36 PM PDT by fulltlt
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To: SkyPilot

And to further undermine their legitimacy.

Russia, Russia, Russia ... Uranium One... Whose side are they on? ... Not ours.


79 posted on 10/22/2017 2:56:51 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: TheBattman; vetvetdoug

Yep, they’re corrupt and we’re supposed live in ignorance or pretend like we don’t care, forever.

And under FOIA, do they alter those docs prior to release, IDK.


80 posted on 10/22/2017 3:01:22 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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