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As Cub Scouts welcome girls, rival group sees expansion of ‘war on boys’
Washington Times ^ | 10/13/2017 | Bradford Richardson

Posted on 10/13/2017 11:05:07 AM PDT by cyclotic

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To: oh8eleven

Boy Scout Oath.
On my honor, I will do my best. To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

Allowing queers into the ranks stomps on the “morally straight” clause.


21 posted on 10/13/2017 12:11:48 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: silverleaf

This is all much ado about nothing
World Scouting is and has been coed for over a decade almost everywhere except here


The rest of the World sucks compared to America, we definitely don’t need to follow them.


22 posted on 10/13/2017 12:13:55 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: cyclotic

Next up: Atheists - remove the belief in God.

The ultimate aim is to probably require boys and girls to enter scouts so they can be sexually abused by adults because that’s where society will have progressed too.


23 posted on 10/13/2017 12:16:57 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: silverleaf

Yes, and many other countries have been communist and socialist for many years “everywhere” except here, so should we do that, too?


24 posted on 10/13/2017 12:28:28 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: ronniesgal
To me, the above are waaay worse than girls.
I agree ... have nothing against girls, but I wonder why the GSA didn't offer what the girls are looking for in the BSA?
25 posted on 10/13/2017 12:34:41 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: silverleaf

“Actually Scouting is a UK tradition that came to America”

It is a UK tradition now, but it wasn’t “a tradition” then. It started in the UK not earlier than 1908, and the Boy Scouts of America was founded in 1910.


26 posted on 10/13/2017 12:42:56 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: oh8eleven

funding maybe? “they” say GS are not as good as BS. i have to be honest, have not kept up with this issue.


27 posted on 10/13/2017 12:45:19 PM PDT by ronniesgal (still winning !!)
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To: cyclotic

BSA like the GSA before it is diving headfirst into irrelevance. BSA can put whatever spin it wants on it, but its recent strategic decisions have caused it to lose members. This is an attempt to poach members from GSA to stay afloat. In the long run, it probably won’t work. The LDS, which has been hugely supportive of BSA has bailed in favor of their own programs. Christians have been migrating to American Heritage Girls and Trail Life USA in droves and this will further accelerate the trend.

In the end an organization has to have some unifying reason to exist. Once you’ve cast out that reason it’s not long before the organization goes the way of the dodo.


28 posted on 10/13/2017 12:56:17 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (There's a voter born every minute.)
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To: cyclotic
Another American institution falls--victim of the Decadence of Western Civilization.
29 posted on 10/13/2017 1:44:03 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Those who want to repeat history prevent others from knowing it.)
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To: ronniesgal

That was my take — I don’t think having girls enter the Scouting program is a problem on its face. Admitting active homosexuals and the “transgendered” (regardless of whether they “identified as female” but could join as biological males or they were biological females who “identified as male”) WAS a huge problem and marks the beginning of the end of Scouting as we recognize it.

That said, now that the BSA has already taken a deep drink at the fetid cesspool of “Gender Identity” and other forms of unnatural sexuality, I fear its too late. All of the other problematic decisions will be further amplified by this one.


30 posted on 10/13/2017 3:00:14 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: cyclotic

Trail life is a good organization. There are other choices, too.

Conservative Boy Scout Alternatives
https://hubpages.com/sports/Conservative-Boy-Scout-Alternatives

Girl Scout Alternatives
https://hubpages.com/sports/Girl-Scout-Alternatives


31 posted on 10/13/2017 7:29:22 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: silverleaf

It isn’t just the co-ed. It is Scout leadership caving to the liberal bullies with every successive demand. First homosexuals, now girls. Next up, you have to inject social justice into everything as Girl Scouts already do.


32 posted on 10/13/2017 7:30:47 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: RKBA Democrat

They should have paid attention to Scouting in Canada. After surrendering to liberal bullies, their numbers fell to less than 20% of its prior enrollment.


33 posted on 10/13/2017 7:32:20 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: oh8eleven

Too busy letting Planned Parenthood give girls’ empowerment lectures. Getting close to nature became “let’s make environmentalist posters”.
It didn’t help that the organization decided that stay at home mothers were bad role models so should be discouraged from any leadership position, drumming out many good leaders with TIME.


34 posted on 10/13/2017 7:33:58 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2
Yes friend what is this nation coming to?

Girls want to camp, trek, climb, shoot carry knives, build fires and earn badges in nature lore and science just like the boys and take on Eagle projects to earn those scholarships because equivalent outdoor , civic, service and leadership development programs have become scarce, weak or are nonexistent in GS

Everyone knows that only boys and men should have them because if teenage girls handle a 12 day Philmont trek and complete an Eagle award it means men are weak

Next thing you know they'll be demanding to fly combat jets, fight wars, become astronauts, maybe even to vote - now there's some social,justice

The nation will never survive unprecedented social carnage

35 posted on 10/14/2017 3:32:00 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: silverleaf

It is not girls wanting to be in the rough camping activities.

It is the destruction of sex segregation for men and injecting mentally ill men into women’s spaces because liberals think men are inherently bad (toxic masculinity) and women are better by their gender ... while simultaneously thinking that the sexes are interchangeable in every regard.

Yes, I know, consistency is lacking because liberal are rarely conscientious - and the emotional reasoning they raise to a virtue makes such inconsistencies irrelevant. Which maxim lets me win right now? Who is most upset? Use the section of dogma that lets the official victim win?

TLDR: the same people saying the Boy Scouts must take in girls say women must let mentally ill men with penises and say they are women into locker rooms, you’re a bigot if you don’t, but if women need safe spaces from men, they can exclude them because they’re so bad. But don’t you dare have boys’ only anything, that’s evil.


36 posted on 10/14/2017 5:46:05 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: cyclotic; All

Traditional values under siege!
When the going gets tough, real men build a new club house

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wBIC8JTQMMQ


37 posted on 10/14/2017 5:46:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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Some of this TRANSGENDER and LGBT nonsense is hurting our children.

The CONSTITUTION says we much PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE

If we do not protect our children, then what?

As a substitute teacher I had a young child complain about he was afraid he was GAY. I believe this was FIRST GRADE or SECOND GRADE, but this is really bad.

Our schools in Louisiana are a BASKET CASE.

It is a sham. When I tried to be a 7th grade teacher, my principal gave me a class with basically 50 students.

But that was okay. This was a school where most students were extremely low socio-economic class

I had 11 SPED students as part of that. Normally there is a TA assigned for that.

I think that principal (just my conjecture) was trying to get back at men.

We need to address problems.

Mixing boys with girls is not a good idea.

At one time, schools were all boys or all girls.

The movie The Blackboard Jungle shows a school that is PUBLIC and all boys. Sidney Poitier has an interesting role in this Glen Ford/Anne Francis movie.

If adults cannot fix RACISM, then why should be mix boys and girls.

This is a recipe for disaster.

By the way, I sent an email (which I never heard back on) about my problems at Paul Breaux Middle School.

No response was ever given. I believe it has been over 2 years with no response. But I guess fixing problems is not anything is worried about as long as they get their paychecks.

As Vince Scully once said about an ADMIRAL who damaged the battleship USS MISSOURI: "You don't pay them the big bucks for nothing" or something to that effect. It was during a Los Angeles Dodgers game.

So maybe some people who have a great deal of responsibility should be fired if they are not doing their job.

The previous Superintendent of the Lafayette Parish School System was fired.

Our children apparently are UNIMPORTANT to some folks. They are more interested in POWER and MONEY than doing the right thing.

President Donald Trump has always done the right thing.

I have always tried to do the right thing, but there are too many COMMUNIST/IDIOTS/LIBERALS doing stuff.

When I worked on a DOD project back at GE, a female manager was betting on the stock market using INSIDE information.

She lost in her speculation.

SHE WAS MAD AT ME FOR TRYING TO WIN!

Another person there told me directly: Maybe the plan is to fail This was on a DOD Project.

GE no longer has business in that area. Lockheed Martin owns it.

Time to get off my soap box.

POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS is not as bad as DEFENSE CONTRACTORS stealing from the government.

Time to get off my soap box.

38 posted on 10/15/2017 2:56:02 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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