[YogicCowboy]

I am a very good man (in fallen, human terms).

I have never fornicated, I have never been drunk, and I was a true friend to many women. I sought a wife only among conservative, Christian women.

They loved my friendship, and they loved my ministry; they rejected my courtship.

Women want Bad Boys they can reform, or Success Objects they can exploit.

I was neither, and I have thus been alone. (By the bye, I was not a wimp. I took on the hierarchy alone more than once for hypocrisy or heresy. More than one woman lauded my courage.)

In their 30s, after rewarding the wrong men with their love and sex, they then want a better man like me to fix their excess emotional baggage and to father other men’s children.

I am not interested.

Yes, I admit I am bitter. I practiced what was preached in modern America’s churchianity, and was punished for it.

The institutionalized church does nothing to approbate virtuous men, nor to admonish foolish women.

But then, this is the same perverted entity that now calls homoeroticism compatible with Biblical Christianity.

The Frankfurt School now runs the organized church.

The real church is underground.

[bagster]

You sound like an awesome guy. Can’t imagine why chicks weren’t into you. /s

[thecodont]

The institutionalized church does nothing to approbate virtuous men, nor to admonish foolish women.

You sound like a good man. I pray that you will find a worthy woman soon.

You're right about the (institutionalized) church's failure to correct its members. "Live a chaste life" isn't the sort of thing that tickles people's ears or fills pews. Many churches would rather ignore sexual sin and not encourage couples towards Christian marriage. It's a shame.

[af_vet_1981]

I am not interested.

Yes, I admit I am bitter. I practiced what was preached in modern America’s churchianity, and was punished.

In which type of church(es) or faith communities did you have these experiences ?

Your tale rings a bell and I expect there were women interested in you earlier in the story whose interest you did not reciprocate. Such is the human condition.

I like Leonard Cohen's dry wit when he wrote :

Now maybe there's a God above,
As for me, all I ever learned from love
Is how to shoot at someone who outdrew you.
and it's no complaint you hear tonight,
and It's not some pilgrim who's seen the light
it's a cold and it's a very lonely Hallelujah.

[huldah1776]

Have you considered that you may be one of the 144k mentioned in Revelation? Not a shabby honor. When I learned the truth about His return I wanted to be one of the resurrected who rules with Him, but beheading won’t be up to me. LOL

You may want to read Bonhoeffer.

[JamesP81]

There is truth in what you say. I’ll pile on some.

I went off the script a couple of times when dating, in that I dated a few non Christian women.

They were, compared to the other women I dated, well adjusted and had their lives put together. Were it not for the command to not be unequally yoked I’d have jumped ship on dating inside the church right then. That command of God is the only thing that held me there because the Christian women I dated were uniformly borderline personalities or straight out narcissists. They were emotionally stunted, unpleasant harridans, except for the top few women. Being more of an average man, those top women were never available to me. That’s ok, that never bothered me at all. I’m nothing if not a realist. I figured an average guy like me would seek out women in my own league as it were.

That didn’t work so well.

In general, my observation is that of the few women my age that were average desireability, they refused to give average men the time of day. They fought each other through their 20s over the small proportion of top men, because they were princesses who only deserved the very best according to mommy, daddy, and the false feminist Christ the churchians taught. Then when they reached 35 they realized they weren’t going to win that game. So they fell back to Average Joe.

Average Joe was not amused and took a pass on that shit deal. With the good days of his youth cast aside like so much trash, he saw no reason to go there.

If I had a son I would advise him against dating Christian women unless he was unusually attractive to women or scored a high paying secure job right out of school, and even then I’d counsel a lot of caution and advise being extremely picky. We would also be dispensing with the traditional “gentlemanly” behaviors as they are wasted on this generation of emotional illiterates.

If I seem bitter I, I don’t mean to. If people don’t like it...well, I hate it for them. If I had grown up in my parents generation I’d have done well, but I didn’t. Liberal social values took away the best years of my youth, and even if things changed right now, I still can’t get those experiences back.

So yes, I have every reason to be displeased with how things went. I have no moral obligation to further participate in a system designed to destroy and consume me for the convenience of others. I also have a moral obligation to warn young men of what they are about to face whether anybody likes it or not.

Rant over.

[ConservativeMind]

You described me with your words.

I found my wife outside of the US. She’s a Christian, a great woman, and we are best friends.

You can do the same.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Yes, I’m in the same camp you are. Although I try to treat women with respect, I’m not considered courtship material either.

These women who run around banging so-called alphas in their 20s, and then desperately seek a quality man in their 30s, when they’re losing their looks, can s*** my d***, as far as I’m concerned.

And of course, the good women are usually taken by sometime in their 20s. Why? Because they’re actually GOOD, that’s why.