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The car that actually changed the world had a much quieter rollout than Tesla’s Model 3
Quartz ^ | 29 July 2017 | Leslie Josephs i

Posted on 07/29/2017 2:27:32 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

But Musk might be putting the cart before the horse. Ford didn’t toot their own horns prematurely—”[They] thought it was an evolutionary model, but it was a revolutionary model,”

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To: whistleduck

Yes they did. And now we have the technology to produce very high efficiency, high RPM, conversion from steam to mechanical output in a small package. We are all familiar with it in other applications but in a steam to mechanical output application it would shine! The Lysholm-Smith Convertor...


41 posted on 07/30/2017 10:53:44 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: MileHi

Thank you! I will have to check into that! Just imagine what Hughes could have done if had had lived longer?


42 posted on 07/30/2017 11:00:15 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

https://steamautomobile.com:8443/ForuM/read.php?1,6465,6504


43 posted on 07/30/2017 11:02:22 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Openurmind

from the link:

From the book “Howard -The Amazing Mr Hughes” by Noah Dietrich

Oh, yes, the steamer.
The two Caltech geniuses continued laboring away at the Romaine Street plant. Finally they issued the word: it’s ready!
It was one of the few times that I saw Howard in a state of real anticipation. He and I went to the Romaine Street location and were ushered by Burns and Lewis into the presence of the completed automobile. It was truly handsome. But then, it should have been, considering the half-million dollars that went into its development.
The steamer was a five-passenger open-top touring car, low-slung and more attractive than the big Stanley Steamer. Howard circled the car with a quizzical expression, then interrogated the engineers on its performance.
“It will travel four hundred miles on one load of water and can start almost as fast as a gasoline car,” he was assured.
“Amazing,” he said. “How on earth did you manage that?”
They explained that it was a matter of water condensation. The body of the car was a network of radiators.
“You mean the entire body is composed of radiators, including the doors?” Howard asked.
Burns and Lewis nodded.
Howard thought for a moment. “Then supposing I’m driving along and some other car hits me broadside,” he said. “What is the result?”
He failed to elicit a reply, and he continued with his logic: “I’d get scalded to death—right?”
“It’s possible,” one of the engineers admitted.
Without pondering further, he said, “Dismantle it, get some torches, and cut it up in pieces.”
He walked out of the workshop, and I followed behind.
“Noah, you see to it that they cut it up into pieces,” he said. “Small pieces.”


44 posted on 07/30/2017 11:06:28 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Paladin2

I’d buy one right now. Ditto, a WW II Jeep. They’d make great commuter cars. But of course, they wouldn’t pass muster with the EPA. I’m serious about this. They could be manufactured for a pittance of car prices today. I’d even opt for 1951 Chevy. I bought one for $60.00 in 1964. I drove it three years and sold it to my brother for $10.00. He drove it several years and sold it. Five years later he saw an old timer driving it still.


45 posted on 07/30/2017 11:14:08 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: donaldo

Model T:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wA2P76gQUCo


46 posted on 07/30/2017 11:19:10 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: MileHi

Incredible! I thought that maybe the piping was a condenser. But I think he may have a been a bit hasty on giving up on it, If the condenser coils were to be relocated along the inside length of the frame rails it would have been safe.

Thank you for the link!


47 posted on 07/30/2017 11:24:08 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I remember being intrigued by reading that when I was a kid, but had forgotten what I read it in. That book also described the development of the spruce goose.


48 posted on 07/30/2017 11:49:17 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: jerod
500,000 on order and they’ve never made more than 60,000 units in a year.

The reports I've read suggest Tesla is going to push out the bare bones $35K models first. More recent reports suggest that fully loaded AWD models with 300 miles of range will be closer to $60K. It will be interesting to see how many want the the bare bones model versus the higher end model...

49 posted on 07/30/2017 11:54:11 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: Openurmind

Perhaps you should go read what a combined cycle plant is ...


50 posted on 07/30/2017 12:10:03 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind

LOL. An engineer you are not.

Quit posting your nonsense.


51 posted on 07/30/2017 12:14:23 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind
Then there was the little issue of the boilers deflagrating after misuse, neglect or just normal rusting.
52 posted on 07/30/2017 12:23:36 PM PDT by Clay Moore
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To: TexasGator

“The principle is that after completing its cycle (in the first engine), the temperature of the working fluid engine is still high enough that a second subsequent heat engine may extract energy from the waste heat that the first engine produced.”

Exactly what I said...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_cycle


53 posted on 07/30/2017 12:27:58 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Clay Moore

With everything there is normal wear and tear. :)

But they did come up with some preventative measures, Soluble oil was tried with some success as a lubricant, corrosion inhibitor and antifreeze. But it changed the boiling properties. With newer technology these problems could be greatly reduced.


54 posted on 07/30/2017 12:40:09 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind
"“The principle is that after completing its cycle (in the first engine), the temperature of the working fluid engine is still high enough that a second subsequent heat engine may extract energy from the waste heat that the first engine produced.”

Exactly what I said...

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NO. It is very obvious you have no fundamental understanding of heat engines. Here is what you said!

In a combined cycle system steam retains enough BTU’s from the first cycle to drive a second cycle which increases it’s efficiency.

55 posted on 07/30/2017 12:40:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind

““The principle is that after completing its cycle (in the first engine), “

Care to state what the ‘first engine’ is in a combined cycle power plant?


56 posted on 07/30/2017 12:51:57 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You are right, I am not... When I was born my Father owned two Service repair stations, a commercial truck repair shop with both light and heavy towing. I was raised into an apprenticeship from old school wrenches.

I had the fortune to have worked under, and with, dozens of very good old school mechanics that modern mechanics like myself could not hold a candle to. I took over all these and currently still have two open now. This is what I do... It’s my Gig man.

So no I am not, But my 82 year old father is indeed an accredited mechanical engineer, as was my Grandfather. And they all taught me everything they knew.

I was born lucky in this aspect. :)


57 posted on 07/30/2017 12:54:07 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

” And they all taught me everything they knew.”

I take it then that they knew nothing about thermodynamics.


58 posted on 07/30/2017 1:01:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

the gas Turbine, second is steam steam turbine.


59 posted on 07/30/2017 1:04:27 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind
"the gas Turbine, second is steam steam turbine."

Then you have found the error in your statement:

"In a combined cycle system steam retains enough BTU’s from the first cycle to drive a second cycle"

60 posted on 07/30/2017 2:02:09 PM PDT by TexasGator
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