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The car that actually changed the world had a much quieter rollout than Tesla’s Model 3
Quartz ^ | 29 July 2017 | Leslie Josephs i

Posted on 07/29/2017 2:27:32 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

But Musk might be putting the cart before the horse. Ford didn’t toot their own horns prematurely—”[They] thought it was an evolutionary model, but it was a revolutionary model,”

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Time will tell.
1 posted on 07/29/2017 2:27:32 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 07/29/2017 2:38:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If it won’t haul my skiis inside by loading through the rear hatchback and have 4x4 it ain’t going to go.


3 posted on 07/29/2017 2:39:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The 1921 Model T Ford


4 posted on 07/29/2017 2:40:30 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

That vehicle looks highly useful.


5 posted on 07/29/2017 2:49:25 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

yahhbut it’ll never sell ;-)


6 posted on 07/29/2017 2:59:57 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Paladin2
On eBay, I bought a 1917 postcard that describes a trip from Dedham, MA to Lake Sebago, ME. My new-born-Dad's Aunt had made the trip "by machine".

Well, my Dad thought it was funny...

7 posted on 07/29/2017 3:04:00 PM PDT by Does so ("PARIS" is like OPEC, except We're Winning!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The only reason we didn’t continue development on the steam autos was due to human patience. No one wanted to wait a few minutes for the steam to build. White company later made one that had a superior “Flash” burner that would produce steam in less than a minute. Humans still could not wait a whole minute so gas became popular instead.

With today’s technology applied, steam could potentially be one of the cleanest most efficient hybrid systems available right now.

Thank you for posting this, I love the history of the Automobile.


8 posted on 07/29/2017 3:06:22 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Full, unfettered access to the engine compartment. I wish my car had that.


9 posted on 07/29/2017 3:09:16 PM PDT by Company Man (Best election evah!)
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To: Fiddlstix

Here’s a very nice one in an ongoing no reserve online auction in Oregon, I’m acquainted with the seller, very reputable honest guy:

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1926-ford-model-t/

Current bid is $4,300.00


10 posted on 07/29/2017 3:10:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I'm pretty sure White was the first Presidential automobile.

Its boiler was small, on the order of a quart, maybe two, to speed startup. It had a condenser too, to try to capture a lot of the steam to recycle the water.

11 posted on 07/29/2017 3:22:01 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Somewhat related, I highly recommend this series:
The Men Who Built America

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA63xWGPI-k&t=5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5nYljEkc94&t=13s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuqbNv-mMYY&t=12s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sh6XYRwuww


12 posted on 07/29/2017 3:26:35 PM PDT by EEGator
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Yep, the White semi closed system to recycle the water was very innovative at the time. You know, steam is one of the most efficient power sources there is to date. Especially if high efficiency power conversion like the Lysholm is used.

Natural gas over closed system steam over electric could probably produce one of the most BTU efficient hybrid systems ever designed. No batteries included or needed. :)


13 posted on 07/29/2017 3:34:29 PM PDT by Openurmind
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To: DUMBGRUNT

1 car off the line... 500,000 on order and they’ve never made more than 60,000 units in a year. Should be interesting to see if they can fill all those orders before Elon Musk gets exposed as a fraudster crook and it all comes crashing down.


14 posted on 07/29/2017 3:36:16 PM PDT by jerod (Socialism=Governance by Government - The National Socialist German Workers' Party is a good example.)
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And once Tesla crosses the 200,000 unit-line for all units made to date all the subsidies go away ...


15 posted on 07/29/2017 4:04:16 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Paladin2

Don’t believe it was 4WD but did OK?
Downhill or cross-country?
Most downhill should fit.

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675025341_Ford-Model-T-car_car-on-railway-track_car-drives-in-snow_car-on-a-steel-pipe


16 posted on 07/29/2017 4:04:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (GO TRUMP!)
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To: Company Man
Full, unfettered access to the engine compartment.

And you know what all the parts are for.

17 posted on 07/29/2017 4:05:13 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: jerod

True, he is a rent seeker.

That said, I hope he does well.
If not, no surprise.


18 posted on 07/29/2017 4:08:29 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (GO TRUMP!)
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To: Openurmind

“You know, steam is one of the most efficient power sources there is to date.”

I always wondered why all the locomotives are steam driven ...


19 posted on 07/29/2017 4:18:43 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Openurmind

A bit more complicated than that.
Ever work a Penberthy steam injector, or equal.
Some excitement to get it going.

And what do you do for antifreeze with all the water?

A closed or open system?...

All fun stuff and not insurmountable.

ICE won the race.

And don’t overlook the steam systems that use the combustion heat to drive the same piston...


20 posted on 07/29/2017 4:24:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (GO TRUMP!)
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