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New bill allows civilians to buy old WWII-era U.S. Army handguns
Dayton Daily News ^ | July 19, 2017 | B.J. Bethel

Posted on 07/24/2017 11:21:40 AM PDT by Hotmetal

Congress will allow the transfer of old U.S. Army pistols to the Civilian Marksmanship Program as a part of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act.

The 2016 NDAA allowed the release of 10,000 M1911 .45 caliber pistols to be released via a pilot program, but providions in the bill didn’t mandate the transfer of the guns to the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The new bill, passed by Congress and expected to pass the Senate, would allow the CMP to sell the pistols to civilians.

The surplus pistols are the largest remaining stock of military World War II-era handguns according to Guns.com, which costs the Army 200,000 to store. Guns.com reports they’ve been out of contract production since 1945.

The 1911 is a historic pistol and one of the most popular models made today. Originally designed for the U.S. Military by Colt, the gun continues to be manufactured in various models by dozens of firearm manufacturers.

The semi-automatic pistol, which fires a .45 caliber round, because the base Army side arm in 1911 before World War I. It was most famous as the gun used by Sergeant Alvin York in World War I at the Meuse-Argonne Offensive in France, where York killed 25 German soldiers and captured 132 by himself, winning him the Congressional Medal of Honor. Some claim the pistol was carried and used by more Medal of Honor winners than any other U.S. military firearm.

York was portrayed by Gary Cooper in the Oscar winning movie Sgt. York in 1941, which won him Best Actor.

The guns being sold by the Army and the CMP are expected to be well-worn, but still have considerable worth as a collector’s item, an inexpensive shooting gun.

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1 posted on 07/24/2017 11:21:40 AM PDT by Hotmetal
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To: Hotmetal
Sweet
2 posted on 07/24/2017 11:25:32 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Hotmetal
The guns being sold by the Army and the CMP are expected to be well-worn, but still have considerable worth as a collector’s item, an inexpensive shooting gun.

Nice thing about the 1911 is that there are so many aftermarket parts easily available that almost any 1911 in almost any condition can be brought back to serviceable condition for a reasonable price.

You could buy three and take the best parts of the three to make one serviceable weapon and be ahead.

4 posted on 07/24/2017 11:31:52 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Hotmetal

“The semi-automatic pistol, which fires a .45 caliber round, because the base Army side arm in 1911 before World War I.” Proofreading is dead.


5 posted on 07/24/2017 11:32:16 AM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Pontiac

The service-level Garands I have bought from the CMP were nicely reworked where they needed to be. My guess is that the CMP will replace a lot of barrels and springs and make very good pistols out of what they have.


6 posted on 07/24/2017 11:40:19 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Hotmetal

“Originally designed for the U.S. Military by Colt...”

Wrong...it was designed by one of greatest of all time, John Moses Browning, the founder of today’s Browning Arms Company.


7 posted on 07/24/2017 11:40:52 AM PDT by Skybird (MORE FAKE JOURNALISM)
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To: Pontiac

Nailed It !

8 posted on 07/24/2017 11:41:18 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Hotmetal
The guns being sold by the Army and the CMP are expected to be well-worn, but still have considerable worth as a collector’s item, an inexpensive shooting gun.

I bet some of them are still packed in Cosmoline and like new!.....................

9 posted on 07/24/2017 11:42:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Ray76

It’s all speel cheked now.......................


10 posted on 07/24/2017 11:44:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Do I have to join a club to buy one? They’re worth $400 to me.


11 posted on 07/24/2017 11:45:42 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

The Garands from CMP were “ready for issue to troops going overseas”. That means combat ready. No sure that the 45s being offered up for sale will be in that condition. One would hope so.


12 posted on 07/24/2017 11:48:41 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Skybird

You are right, Browning invented it but he was working with Colt.

Browning greatly admired the workers at Colt and FN for their ability to produce beautifully made and finished guns.


13 posted on 07/24/2017 11:49:39 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Skybird
John Moses Browning

Blessed be his name ;)

14 posted on 07/24/2017 11:51:03 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I don’t know, but I’d like to find out!

If you find out let us all know!.....................


15 posted on 07/24/2017 11:51:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Bull Snipe

If they have been in ‘storage’ since WWII, I’d bet that some are used and some are new and all ready to go as soon as you get all the Cosmoline cleaned off!..................


16 posted on 07/24/2017 11:53:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Hotmetal

While of historical value, these pistols are likely worn out.


17 posted on 07/24/2017 11:59:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Red Badger

“I’d bet that some are used and some are new and all ready to go as soon as you get all the Cosmoline cleaned off!..................”...

You are probably right but the average shooter would never even get close to purchasing one. I’d love to have one of those and I highly doubt they are “worn out” as another poster has suggested.


18 posted on 07/24/2017 12:10:39 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

Correct!
For them to have been in storage, they would have needed to be checked and passed by an armorer first before packing in Cosmoline, sealed in vacuum heat seal bags and stored in wooden(?) cases.......................


19 posted on 07/24/2017 12:14:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Hotmetal

I would LOVE to surprise my husband with one of these guns! I wish there were details on how to purchase one once they are available. :(


20 posted on 07/24/2017 12:20:29 PM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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