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Addiction Treatment: The New Gold Rush. 'It's Almost Chic'
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 06/23/2017 | TERI SFORZA

Posted on 06/26/2017 6:24:14 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

To fully appreciate the money flowing into addiction treatment, consider the size of the bill Tara Richards ran up during a five-month attempt to achieve sobriety at a rehab center in San Clemente — $416,050. --SNIP-- “There are nonprofit treatment centers that cost $53,000 a month, while good senior care can cost $4,000 a month. What’s the other $49,000 paying for?” asked Horvath. “It’s not like you’re using an MRI or an X-ray machine. It’s a bed, food and usually minimally-educated therapists. I’m really confused. Where’s the money going? No one has been able to show me.”

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To: Kid Shelleen

Follow the money.

It’s 20-26 year olds on daddy or mommy’ gold PPO policy are driving this.

The PPOs don’t shop for price, so a treatment operator changes whatever he can and reaping the rewards.


21 posted on 06/26/2017 7:10:08 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Kid Shelleen

They tried to make me go to rehab, I said, “No, no, no”
Yes, I’ve been black but when I come back you’ll know, know, know
I ain’t got the time and if my daddy thinks I’m fine
He’s tried to make me go to rehab, I won’t go, go, go

- Amy Winehouse...who should’ve gone to rehab.


22 posted on 06/26/2017 7:12:59 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Kid Shelleen

Reminds me of that floating fat man - the Baron.


23 posted on 06/26/2017 7:16:27 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Only the dead have seen an end to war.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Rehab is a monumental scam.

Anti-addiction drugs are far more effective. They sometimes cure addiction almost immediately, and they are often dirt cheap. But they are rarely used.


24 posted on 06/26/2017 7:21:22 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Stop treating addiction as a disease and treat it as what it really is...a BEHAVIOR-caused condition.


25 posted on 06/26/2017 7:21:48 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
This is the big ObamaCare issue no one is talking about.

In some states, Addiction treatment and mental health care treatment make up 40% of ObamaCare expenditures.

Mental health care supports “crazy money” disability fraud

Addiction treatment is very often a euphemism for Drug Diversion programs where drug dealers and druggies are placed in Rehab in lie of going to jail by Judges.

We are diverting health care dollars to support disability fraud and support drug dealers with our health care dollars. This is scam on both ends because politically well connected health care providers get the contracts for this crap and then rake the taxpayer over the coals.

This is what government healthcare looks like

26 posted on 06/26/2017 7:24:46 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I knew this from all the commercials advertising “addiction treatment at little or no cost to you.”

"You" meaning the addict. The "you" paying is the rest of us. I resent being forced to pay for other people's BEHAVIORS. That is why I oppose the legalization of marijuana. When the hard core users have toked themselves into unemployability they'll be toking on MY tax dollars.

Decriminalization is different, with the stipulation that no public funds may be used to support abusers.

27 posted on 06/26/2017 7:27:19 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Fido969
...should you dare suggest otherwise you “want people to die of their addictions.”

Since they have CHOSEN the way of death, who am I to interfere with their CHOICE? They wanna die, let 'em!

28 posted on 06/26/2017 7:30:07 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

The shrinks tried for years to get rolled into “health care” so they could belly up to the feral government trough, and finally succeeded.


29 posted on 06/26/2017 7:30:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I live in Palm Beach County; the epicenter of all things rehab. This week we were featured in NYT and MSNBC. I vol with the addicts. They are a mess - seriously. The alcoholics are a dream in comparison. Rehab is necessary and it should be insurable. Fraud is a huge ongoing problem (the fraudsters are the scum of the earth - worse than pushers.) This is a newer problem that has obviously exploded. The fraudsters will be exposed and punished, but for now it is a game of catch-up. Many, many people will die in the meantime. BTW, the opiate addicts are of every race, religion, age and any other demographic you can think of - age may be the surprise to many.


30 posted on 06/26/2017 7:35:45 AM PDT by Oystir
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To: Fido969

>>> Rehab is a racket. ...

I’ll take my AA meetings any day <<<

AA is a racket.

The majority of substance addicts cure themselves naturally. They grow out of it.

The fact that they are under a “program”, does not mean the program fixed them. That is taking false credit. It also may have delayed sobriety, even though the program has some benefit.

No, the fact that the addict sought out the program, means his self cure already began. The program leaders who run to the front of the parade, are just taking false credit for what already happened.


31 posted on 06/26/2017 7:39:59 AM PDT by TheNext (SLOW FUND Wall = Trump 2020 Trump Jr 2024 Eric 2032)
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To: Fido969

Those who want to quit, quit.

Let me testify!


32 posted on 06/26/2017 7:49:46 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: TheNext

“The majority of substance addicts cure themselves naturally. They grow out of it.”

The old-school method: Taper down to nearly nuthin’, then stop.

And stay stopped.

If somebody cannot do that, there’s no rehab or program in the world that can help them.

They are hopelessly lost.


33 posted on 06/26/2017 7:56:38 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: FES0844
Save your money & go to church!

So true!

34 posted on 06/26/2017 8:19:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Mariner

I hate these threads where people offer their opinion on life and death issues. I can guarantee you that 95% of the posters haven’t the slightest clue on treatment for addiction. Many (not all) should be ignored.
If you are struggling with grid addiction of any kind see your doctor and pastor. Lots of support and paths to getting your life back.


35 posted on 06/26/2017 8:34:37 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: cornfedcowboy

Grid=drug


36 posted on 06/26/2017 8:37:15 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Can I get some more specific info from you on that? I was wondering if they work on other addictions besides drugs/alcohol?


37 posted on 06/26/2017 8:49:01 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The shrinks tried for years to get rolled into “health care” so they could belly up to the feral government trough, and finally succeeded.

I consider psychology and psychiatry made-up pseudo-sciences anyway. Made up to designate evil behaviors as diseases.

38 posted on 06/26/2017 8:53:38 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Grid=drug

GRID was the old name for AIDS...Gay Related Immune Deficiency.


39 posted on 06/26/2017 8:57:34 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: TheNext
The majority of substance addicts cure themselves naturally. They grow out of it.

lol. You have no idea what you are talking about.

40 posted on 06/26/2017 9:23:49 AM PDT by Fido969 (IN!)
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