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Phoenix Mayor wants to rename Robert E. Lee Street; prevent residents from having a say
azfamily.com ^ | 7 June 2017 | Dennis Welch

Posted on 06/11/2017 3:00:48 PM PDT by Rebeleye

Phoenix mayor plans to rename a street that is named after Robert E. Lee. Residents do not want to see the name of their street changed. 75 percent of people living on a Phoenix street need to approve of a name change before it's made. But the council will vote on changing that, giving the elected officials the power to make changes without residential approval.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: arizona; phoenix; robertelee; veterans
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On Tuesday, the Phoenix mayor announced plans to rename a street that is named after a Confederate general, saying it's offensive and sends the wrong message. "We want to send a message about our values as a city and we don't want to have names of streets ... that offend people in our community. That's just not right," Stanton said. Stanton is referring to Robert E. Lee Street in northern Phoenix, which is named after the Confederate general. The push comes as local and national African American leaders call for the removal of Confederate monuments and memorials from public land. [READ MORE: Black leaders: Remove Confederate monuments from Arizona] In Arizona this week, leaders from the NAACP and Black Lives Matter stepped up pressure on Gov. Doug Ducey to removes six confederate memorials and geographic designations on state property. The civil rights leaders said public resources should not be used to promote symbols of "racial terror" and "racial hatred." However, residents living along Robert E. Lee Street do not want to see the name of their street changed. "No, the street name didn't bother me," said Jane Pacelli, who is white and has lived there for decades. "I'd just like to leave it the way it is, you know you have it so long." [RELATED: Questions raised over Confederate monuments in Arizona] The council will begin the process of renaming the street later this month.
1 posted on 06/11/2017 3:00:49 PM PDT by Rebeleye
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To: Rebeleye

These raving lunatics are acting more and more like the supposed Caliphate’s residents every day.

First thing ISIS does when they “take over”, right? Destroy all the history.


2 posted on 06/11/2017 3:04:11 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: Rebeleye

That seems to be the direction we are moving nowadays.

The government officials, elected or unelected, make all the decisions and “the peons” don’t get a say.


3 posted on 06/11/2017 3:04:49 PM PDT by Spiridon
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To: Rebeleye
Some time ago the State (or City) of New York renamed the Triborough Bridge (an iconic example of American progress) to The Robert F Kennedy Bridge.Given that Bobby K,Marilyn's secret friend,isn't worthy of having a sewage treatment plant named after him many people still call it "The Triboro".

The same can happen in Phoenix.

4 posted on 06/11/2017 3:10:43 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Rebeleye
Arizona (and particularly Phoenix) have been CALIFORNICATED like every other state that the Californians, escaping their fouled nest, migrate to!
5 posted on 06/11/2017 3:10:54 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Rebeleye

If politicians are going to solve problems that don’t exist and investigate crimes that never occurred as opposed to actually serving us and making our society safer, can we not have them anymore?

Can we go ahead and just eliminate this pointless occupation right now?


6 posted on 06/11/2017 3:14:41 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: Rebeleye

There is something called white paint. And some kinds stick pretty good and last long. I would paint R E Lee St right on the street if he does this.


7 posted on 06/11/2017 3:19:32 PM PDT by crz
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To: Rebeleye
If by stages meat-eating is banned a century from now, will we have to tear down all of the statues of evil meat-eaters like MLK, etc?


8 posted on 06/11/2017 3:23:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rebeleye

Call it Al Notso Sharpton Street.


9 posted on 06/11/2017 3:29:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: ExSES

Phoenix must be finished... they threw sheriff Joe out and elected this douchenozzle mayor. Mores the pity.


10 posted on 06/11/2017 3:30:08 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Paladin2

The commies will rename it ‘Che Guevarra Way’


11 posted on 06/11/2017 3:32:16 PM PDT by nhbob1
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To: Rebeleye

When are they going to vote on not having to be voted in anymore?

It’s coming.


12 posted on 06/11/2017 3:32:45 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Yes, it is a form of book burning. You know what eventually happens to these people? Memories are forever.


13 posted on 06/11/2017 3:33:27 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: Rebeleye

The new name ... Commie Dupe Street


14 posted on 06/11/2017 3:35:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (When you have covfefe you don't need anything else.)
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To: Rebeleye

needs to be recalled immediaty


15 posted on 06/11/2017 3:41:17 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (no matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle,IS STILL A USED CAR!)
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To: Rebeleye

Before I delve into what the great Wolseley wrote about General Lee, let me first tell you about Sir Garnet Wolseley and establish with you his credibility both for greatness in his own right and as an individual who could recognize greatness in others from the lofty perch of his own character and accomplishments.

Let me begin by saying that Wolseley is generally given credit for the transformation of the British army from a gentleman’s army to a modern fighting force. He was the one who prepared the Brits to play a key role in the winning of the First World War.

He was attracted to the military at an early age and followed in the footsteps of his military father. From the beginning he was destined for greatness. His first action was in the Crimean War where he was elevated to the rank of captain at age 21. Because of his youth there was opposition to his holding this rank. When he threatened resignation if the rank were taken away, his superior officers recognized greatness and allowed him to maintain the rank. Just three years later he became the youngest lieutenant colonel in the British army.

Wolseley served in India and China before being sent to Canada in 1861 to help plan for possible war against the Union forces of the United States after northern forces had illegally removed two Confederate diplomats from a British ship.This was the famous Trent Affair. He traveled in secret to Virginia to study the organization and effectiveness of the Confederate army since it was primarily a volunteer army. He spent much time with generals Lee, Jackson and Longstreet and was highly impressed by all three. It was Robert E. Lee, however, who most impressed Wolseley.

Based on this time with the Confederates he wrote “A Month’s Visit to the Confederate Headquarters” which was published in Blackwood’s magazine and is still well-known today.

Garnet Wolseley later served in Cyprus as the first high commissioner of that island after it came into the empire and as governor and commanding general in South Africa Natal Province. In 1880 he returned to England and was made adjutant general which gave him authority over military training. In 1882 he was sent to Egypt to quell a nationalist uprising where his brilliant tactics led to suppression of the revolt. To show the gratitude of the British government, Wolseley was made a baron and paid a reward of 30,000 pounds. In 1884 he was made viscount and in1894 was made field marshall. In 1895 he was promoted to commander-in-chief of the British army.

Viscount Wolseley also found time to author THE LIFE OF MARLBOROUGH, THE DECLINE AND FALL OF NAPOLEON and SOLDIERS POCKET BOOK FOR FIELD SERVICE, the bible of the British army.

This is only a brief portrait of the brilliant Wolseley - a man of great honor, accomplishment and intelligence. How would a man of his stature describe Robert E. Lee? Let me list just a few direct quotes fromthe pen of this great man:

” I desire to make known to the reader not only the renowned
soldier, whom I believe to have been the greatest of his age,
but to give some insight into the character of one whom I
have always considered the most perfect man I ever met.”
Wolseley on Lee

” He was opposed to secession, and to prevent it he would
willingly sacrifice everything except honor and duty, which
forbid him to desert his State... Nothing would induce him
to have any part in the invasion of his own State, much as
he abhorred the war into which he felt she was rushing. His
love of country (Virginia), his unselfish patriotism, caused
him to relinquish home, fortune, a certain future, in fact
everything for her sake.”
Wolseley on Lee turning down the offer
of command of the Union army to side
with Virginia and the Confederacy

” He spoke bitterly of none - a remarkable fact, as at that
time men on both sides were wont to heap the most
violent terms of abuse upon their respective enemies.”
Wolseley on the character and
Christian nature of Lee

” Where else in history is a great man to be found whose
whole life was one such blameless record of duty nobly
done? ... The most perfect gentleman of a State long
celebrated for its chivalry, he was just, gentle, and
generous, and child-like in the simplicity of his
character.”
Wolseley on the character of Lee

” I have met many of the great men of my time, but Lee
alone impressed me with the feeling that I was in the
presence of a man who was cast in a grander mould,
and made of different and of finer metal than all other
men. He is stamped upon my memory as a being apart
and superior to all others in every way: a man with whom
none I ever knew, and very few of whom I have read, are
worthy to be classed.”
Wolseley on the greatness of Lee

and finally,

” When all the angry feelings roused by Secession are
buried with those which existed when the Declaration of
Independence was written, when Americans can review
the history of their last great rebellion with calm impartiality,
I believe that all will admit that General Lee towered
far above all men on either side of that struggle: I believe
he will be regarded not only as the most prominent figure
of the Confederacy, but as the great American of the
nineteenth century, whose statue is well worthy to stand
on an equal pedestal with that of Washington, and whose
memory is worthy to be enshrined in the hearts of all his
countrymen.”
Wolseley on Lee’s rightful place in history


16 posted on 06/11/2017 3:55:20 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Rebeleye

The voters of Phoenix can vote the entire city council out of office and the new council can change the name back to Robert E Lee.


17 posted on 06/11/2017 3:58:53 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Rebeleye

Tyranny and oppression. This is what the Stars n’ Bars has evolved to oppose. Down with statism!


18 posted on 06/11/2017 4:46:20 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: 1_Inch_Group
ThOn Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 1:35 PM, "Boomer" Bob wrote:ere's less and less difference between Islamic caliphate in America and the leftist ideology. All things they disagree with must be whitewashed to fit their agenda and idea of what America should be. Not something it has ever been nor intended to be. Sometimes I wish I were a younger healthier guy who could join the militias when the time comes to wipe out both these ideologies from the face of America with prejudice. That means deliberately and firmly with no remorse.
19 posted on 06/11/2017 4:55:33 PM PDT by Boomer (Progressive: The leftist mental illness has "progressed" to criminally insane.)
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To: Rebeleye

Mayor Greg Stanton

Since taking office in 2012, Mayor Greg Stanton has worked tirelessly to build a modern economy that works for every Phoenix family. By boosting trade with Mexico, investing in the biosciences, and lifting up local small business, Stanton is leading the way to create an innovation-based, export economy built to last.

Stanton is committed to making our community a more welcoming and open place. Under his leadership, Phoenix became the first U.S. city to end chronic homelessness among veterans. Phoenix also earned national recognition as a leader on LGBT issues, and became the first Arizona city to earn a perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign’s municipal equality index.

Stanton attended Marquette University on the Harry S. Truman Scholarship, and earned a law degree from the University of Michigan. Before he was elected to his first term mayor in 2011, Stanton served nine years on the City Council and as Arizona’s Deputy Attorney General.

In 2015, Stanton won reelection and also successfully led one of the most ambitious transportation initiatives in the country – a plan that will triple Phoenix’s light rail system over the next 35 years. In his second term, Stanton will continue to shape an economy that works for everyone — one rooted in innovation and focused on growing exports.

https://www.phoenix.gov/mayor/biography

(OK, guess, R or D?)

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20 posted on 06/11/2017 4:58:40 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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