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Mining a Mile Down: 175 Degrees, 600 Gallons of Water a Minute
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 7, 2017 | Steven Norton

Posted on 06/08/2017 4:26:43 AM PDT by C19fan

One of the world’s largest untapped copper deposits sits 7,000 feet below the Earth’s surface. It is a lode that operator Rio Tinto RIO 0.68% PLC wouldn’t have touched—until now. Not that long ago, an abundance of high-grade copper could be mined out of shallower open pits. But as those deposits are depleted and high-grade copper becomes tougher to find, firms such as Rio have been compelled to mine deeper underground.

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KEYWORDS: arizona; copper; mining; resolutionmine; riotinto; superior
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John Derbyshire on his weekly podcast Radio Derb quotes someone who claims if for some reason civilization collapses humans would never be able to replicate what we have today. The main reason is the survivors will not be able to get to metals like cooper as all the easy access deposits the fueled the Bronze Age, a mixture of cooper and tin, have been depleted.
1 posted on 06/08/2017 4:26:43 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

There are several large high grade copper deposits that are easier to get at here is the US.

But the insane enviro wakos and the anti mining crowd have stop there development.


2 posted on 06/08/2017 4:30:48 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: C19fan

Plenty of high grade copper around after the collapse. No need to go through the pain of refining it.


3 posted on 06/08/2017 4:31:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: C19fan

Link to nowhere unless you are a subscriber.


4 posted on 06/08/2017 4:32:10 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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http://www.superiorarizonachamber.org/2017/06/07/mining-mile-175-degrees-600-gallons-water-minute/


5 posted on 06/08/2017 4:36:02 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: C19fan

Did a search. Other options

http://www.superiorarizonachamber.org/2017/06/07/mining-mile-175-degrees-600-gallons-water-minute/


6 posted on 06/08/2017 4:37:02 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Truth29

Thanks

My search found it too.


7 posted on 06/08/2017 4:38:12 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: C19fan

7000 feet? 175 degrees?

But Al The Goron said it was millions of degrees down there.


8 posted on 06/08/2017 4:40:31 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: C19fan

I have heard that landfills contain metals at concentrations the same as mines.


9 posted on 06/08/2017 4:40:50 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: riverrunner

Minnesota has copper and a mining company is in the process of getting a permit to mine it. Its very close to the Boundry Waters area, however.
Upper Michigan still has copper reserves that could be developed.


10 posted on 06/08/2017 4:41:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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I’m not so sure of that; some mining activity stopped not because of availability but because costs were lower and/or quality was higher elsewhere. The iron mining along the NY/NJ border stopped for that reason; plenty of iron still there. In fact, during WWII they refurbished some of the mines that had been closed for decades in case they needed more iron, but the war ended and they left them as is.


11 posted on 06/08/2017 4:56:14 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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12 posted on 06/08/2017 5:02:04 AM PDT by DannyTN
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I’m surprised that this effort is in the US given the envir opposition to any thing mining. As another poster commented, there are still high grade deposits near the surface but envir opposition prevents mining. Even this underground effort is goint to take years to permit. And mining at Superior (located east of Phoenix) has been underway for over 140 years.


13 posted on 06/08/2017 5:24:27 AM PDT by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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Interesting how the temperature with depth increases differently around the world…. … the TauTona Mine (Western Deep No.3 Shaft) in South Africa is currently the deepest mine at just a bit under 13,000 feet and its temperature is only about 140 degrees F.


14 posted on 06/08/2017 5:43:52 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: mad_as_he$$

There is supposed to be tens of billions of dollars of now unused copper wire above and under New York City.


15 posted on 06/08/2017 5:43:56 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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The copper mines in the Kewenaw peninsula in the UP Michigan owned by the Calumet Helka mining company went 12,000 down at an angle I believe.
And that was almost 100 years ago.


16 posted on 06/08/2017 5:58:43 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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“The main reason is the survivors will not be able to get to metals like cooper as all the easy access deposits the fueled the Bronze Age, a mixture of cooper and tin, have been depleted.”

This is an interesting thought that had not occurred to me. I would think though, that there would be enough scrap laying around to get us going again.


17 posted on 06/08/2017 6:00:41 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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They could simply mine the garbage dumps.

If civilization collapsed, there would be 50%- 90% fewer inhabitants of the Earth within one year.

It is estimated that around 90% of the U.S. population would die within one year of an electromagnetic pulse event. We are so dependent on modern society and technologies that most of us would die very quickly.


18 posted on 06/08/2017 6:12:59 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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No need to go through the pain of refining it.

After "The Collapse" it will only be necessary to cannibalize older, unoccupied homes after the owners die off.

19 posted on 06/08/2017 6:26:16 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Good judgment comes from experience. And experience? Well, that comes from poor judgment.)
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For wire yes, for bulk copper for making other things houses are a poor choice. Power plants/distribution of all kinds are the place to start. True with aluminum also.


20 posted on 06/08/2017 6:33:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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