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Give high schoolers the right to vote — young people need a voice in government
NY DAILY NEWS ^ | May 5, 2017 | ELI FRANKELFriday

Posted on 05/05/2017 9:26:27 AM PDT by EinNYC

Political and social activism is surging in America. Protest groups are springing up across the country. Concerned citizens are marching in the streets to support science, women's rights, justice and immigration. Congressional offices are flooded with calls from constituents.

And much of the renewed political and social activity is being carried out by high school students — many of them committed and informed activists, yet still too young to vote.

It is time to give those students a voice in government.

That’s the goal of the New York Young Voter Act, a bill the Youth Progressive Policy Group is pushing with the support of Assemblyman Robert Carroll (D–Brooklyn) and State Sen. Brad Hoylman (D–Manhattan). The bill — A.6839/S.5646, if you want to look it up — would lower the voting age in New York State to 17 in all local and statewide elections. It would also improve the high school curriculum by bolstering nuts-and-bolts civic education with lessons on the history and meaning of the Constitution, plus more intense focus on "genocide, slavery, the Holocaust, and the mass starvation in Ireland," according to the bill.

As a practical matter, the bill would also provide all high school students with the opportunity to register in their classrooms so they’re eligible in time for the next Election Day.

Opponents may contend that 17 year olds are not emotionally or intellectually ready for the responsibility of voting. But American 17 year olds already shoulder many of the responsibilities of adulthood: They can join the military (with parental consent), they can drop out of high school and work to support themselves and their families (80% of American high school students will hold jobs and pay taxes before they graduate), and, of course, they can drive a motor vehicle — one of their most dangerous responsibilities.

Still, these 17 year olds are left with no say in public affairs; they have no say in how their tax dollars are spent, how their public schools are run, how the criminal justice system is administered, and how legislators set their agendas.

Beyond enshrining the adult responsibilities and maturity of most 17 year olds, setting the voting age at 17 would expand and improve dismally low levels of democratic participation and civic engagement. In Austria, Brazil, Argentina, Scotland and one Maryland city, civic engagement soared when lawmakers lowered the voting age to 16. For example, the voter turnout by newly eligible 16- and 17-year olds in the Scottish independence referendum in 2014 was 75% — far higher than the 54% turnout by 18- to 24-year olds.


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To: EinNYC

So this is how the NEA wants to expand the power of the Democratic Party that they own.


61 posted on 05/05/2017 12:12:45 PM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: TexasGator

“You left off the “/sarc”.”

Either that, or he left off the “I’m an idiot”.


62 posted on 05/05/2017 12:37:01 PM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: TexasGator

We’d have a much freer, less intrusive government. Just look at voting patterns. What’s wrong with that?


63 posted on 05/05/2017 12:40:00 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: EinNYC

You should either own property or own a business to be able to vote. One should have a financial interest in the financial success of the Country.


64 posted on 05/05/2017 1:02:40 PM PDT by GregoTX
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To: Mears

If you owned a Business with 10 people on the Board as Owners and 100 employees, would you let the Employees have a VOTE equal to each Owner on their Compensation package???

That’s what I thought!


65 posted on 05/05/2017 1:54:52 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: eyeamok

Apples and oranges-——and you know it.

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66 posted on 05/05/2017 1:57:17 PM PDT by Mears
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To: TexasGator

I would agree to extend it to people that actually Pay Federal Taxes, NET!

If you owned a Business with 10 people on the Board as Owners and 100 employees, would you let the Employees have a VOTE equal to each Owner on their Compensation package???

That’s what I thought!


67 posted on 05/05/2017 1:57:32 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Mears

Really?? Do you think a Town of 100 with 75 on Welfare should have an equal vote as to how much property Taxes are paid by the other 25?? Or how much money they should receive from the Public Treasury??

Not apples and oranges, logic 101 and hypocrisy 101


68 posted on 05/05/2017 1:59:45 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: eyeamok

Your original post said that only property owners should vote,and now you’re yapping about people on welfare.

You may be astonished to find out that people that are employed often rent,by choice———somebody is paying the big money rents for the apartments in my area.

Voting should not be restricted to property owners.

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69 posted on 05/05/2017 2:09:42 PM PDT by Mears
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To: eyeamok

How are they different from ordinary democrats then?


70 posted on 05/05/2017 2:17:41 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: EinNYC

Democrats want empty headed kids as voters because they know that is a trick they have used to great advantage for years.


71 posted on 05/05/2017 2:37:47 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: phs3

Age should not be criterion for voting. Work history, property owning, etc, should be a requirement to vote. Any fool can be a citizen. But fools shouldn’t be allowed to vote.


72 posted on 05/05/2017 2:50:27 PM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: EinNYC

I’ve ignored this thread all day because, well, it’s just a stupid idea. But it does reinforce the notion that democRats really need ignorant voters to win elections.


73 posted on 05/05/2017 3:25:22 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: EinNYC

Hahahaha.. highschoolers.
The democrat voter base: criminals, sexual deviants, communists, illegal aliens, people who vote multiple times, fake voter registration, the dead and the stupid.

I think I was about 24 when I voted for the first time. I wanted to know all about it to be able to make the best decision possible.


74 posted on 05/05/2017 3:27:34 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

21 and pass a civics exam.


75 posted on 05/05/2017 3:32:22 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“This will result in Bella Thorne being elected Governor of New York.”

She would be better than what they’ve got.


76 posted on 05/05/2017 3:47:07 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: EinNYC

The voting age should be 40-65: old enough to have life experience, not yet old enough to be senile.


77 posted on 05/05/2017 4:49:05 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: EinNYC

In the Old Testament a man had to be 20 years old to fight in the army. how about 20 yrs for all, military, smoking, drinking, voting.


78 posted on 05/05/2017 5:15:13 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: eyeamok

so, the guy opens a restaurant employing 100 people runs at a loss for the first couple of years due to start up costs loses his right to vote?


79 posted on 05/05/2017 5:16:47 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: eyeamok

your post makes no sense as a response to my post.


80 posted on 05/05/2017 5:45:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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