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Concealed carry pants shopping issue and question (Vanity)
Me | 4-28-17 | RandallFlagg

Posted on 04/28/2017 11:56:39 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

I have a weird clothing style.
When I'm not wearing my work uniform, I wear black slacks and a long, button down short sleeve shirt with breast pockets. I have a few pairs of the exact same kind so I can rotate them out through the week.
I like the simplicity, and don't really care if people think that I never change my clothes.

Being a concealed carrying fella, I always seem to have a problem with my gun making my pants droop down as I'm walking, and I always have to keep pulling them back up. My white crew-neck long T-shirts always comes untucked, too.

My EDC is a Kahr CW45 in a leather Mitch Rosen Express Line holster. My original gun belt was a Crossbreed Classic, but it's sagging pretty badly now and isn't in use. So, I've gone to the DeSantis, and recently bought the Kore Essentials ratcheting X-1 gun belt -which I really like, but wouldn't mind it if it was just a little bit thicker.

So, since I've tried different gun belts, I'm convinced it's the slacks I'm wearing that's causing the sagging.
When I'm at work, I wear a lot of items on my waist, and my uniform pants don't sag at all.

Do any gun-carrying FReepers have any suggestions as to what kind of black slacks work best for concealed carry? Preferably not too expensive, and not cargo pants. I've been told that wearing cargo pants just screams, "GUN."

Now, I will type the shopping issue I had today in the body of this post.


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To: RandallFlagg

I have a khaki pair that I wear very often. They don’t really look all that different. What I do recommend as well is a purpose built belt.

I got mine from Bullhide and they’re outstanding for the purpose.

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81 posted on 04/28/2017 3:31:32 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I wear cargo pants all the time, whether or not I’m carrying at the time. The people in my life thus become very used to seeing me in cargo pants.


82 posted on 04/28/2017 3:40:29 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: TexasGator
...posting a notice is recommended.

I understood it to be required. I stand corrected. Of course they can ask anyone to leave for any reason. Discretion is a virtue, what they don't now isn't an issue.

83 posted on 04/28/2017 3:57:04 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Thank you


84 posted on 04/28/2017 3:57:52 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I would call the store during normal business hours and try to talk to the manager. Their policy sounds odd for a store that sells lots of concealed carry clothing. My guess is this woman either misunderstood the policy, or exceeded her authority.

As for you problem, two possible solutions; carry a lighter gun, or try a concealed carry vest.


85 posted on 04/28/2017 4:05:00 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: RandallFlagg

https://bendavis.com/product/original-bens-pants-black-2/


86 posted on 04/28/2017 4:59:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: RandallFlagg

Try a Crossbreed in the trousers holster. I use them with my Glock 19 and my 1911. Best holsters I have found, by far. Get your regular trousers a size larger and it will work for you. Get the Crossbreed belt too.


87 posted on 04/28/2017 7:08:59 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: RandallFlagg

I carry all of the time, just don’t tell anyone. I bought a suit a few years ago from Dillard’s, I carried my 1911 in with me to be sure my Crossbreed holster and belt would work with it.


88 posted on 04/28/2017 7:16:03 PM PDT by wjcsux (The hyperventilating of the left means we are winning! (Tagline courtesy of Laz.))
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To: logi_cal869

She wanted him to discharge his weapon in the store... because that’s brilliant and not illegal at all.


89 posted on 04/28/2017 8:48:27 PM PDT by Alt Right
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To: RandallFlagg

Carry concealed and don’t say a word. Unless you’re going through a metal detector at a courthouse or federal building or airport etc, no problem.


90 posted on 04/29/2017 5:05:10 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tumblindice

LOVE THAT SIGN!


91 posted on 04/29/2017 5:07:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RandallFlagg

To me 5.11 pants tell me the guy is a shooter, a fed, a cop, or a wannabee poser.

All of which announce you probably have a gun. Which you may or may not want to announce.

For that reason, “photographer’s vests” etc are often called the “shoot me first vest” since you will appear to be the biggest threat to the shooter.


92 posted on 04/29/2017 5:10:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Alt Right

Oddly, from what I read you & I were the only ones to have really nailed that one...


93 posted on 04/29/2017 5:10:43 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: TexasGator
Besides. It is their store. NO LAW says they have to allow you to have a loaded weapon in their store.

You are on their property. law gator.

Oh, really? See what happens if they post a *Whites only* sign on *their property*.

94 posted on 04/29/2017 5:24:10 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

That is one stupid post.


95 posted on 04/29/2017 5:36:29 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: MileHi; Lurker
5.11 pants

What are those? Levies?

5.11 is the outfit that made about half of the usually-khaki *photographers vests* used by contractors in *the green zone* in Baghdad, Iraq when the Coalition Provisional Authority was still running things. Varying slightly from the also-popular Domke photographers vests [often intentionally mispronounced as *donkey vests*] the 5.11 units had accessory pockets sized for double-stack GI issue 9mm magazines [worked okay with 2 M1911 mags instead!] and M16 30-rounders. the vests were so popular, they expanded into a line of cargo pants trousers so common in FBI circles they're practically a uniform item. And now they've got a full line of everything from boots to hats and in between; see 5.11.com

But 5.11 gear is not quite the only game in town. Duluth Trading makes a line of very stout clothing for tradesmen, including *Longtail* t-shirts made about 3" longer than normal, for the tall folks or those who wear belt pouches or other tools on their belt. They've got cargo trousers made of firehose canvas, a little more popular in Afghanistan and Wyoming than the dress-pants-weight 5.11 khaki twill offerings. And a good many other useful things, including side-supporting suspenders that don't interfere with an IWB holster or GI M3shoulder rig.

http://www.duluthtrading.com/

96 posted on 04/29/2017 5:52:13 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy; RandallFlagg

RandallFlagg: forgot to ping you to my post just above. Both 5.11 and Duluth Trading offer suitable mens trousers in black, though khaki trousers with blue crew-neck collared stretch shirts were more common on the range or casually in my previous FBI circles than black, even among the SWAT team guys.


97 posted on 04/29/2017 5:58:47 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: TexasGator
That is one stupid post.

That is the pot calling the kettle black. See *here* for explanaition. I will not overtax you with the Latin version.

98 posted on 04/29/2017 6:03:31 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Travis McGee
For that reason, “photographer’s vests” etc are often called the “shoot me first vest” since you will appear to be the biggest threat to the shooter.

Avoiding the khaki, black and police-department blue versions helps. I've got one in blue jean denim with mostly internal pockets that's less a liability, but in Wyoming full-length sleeves are seen pretty near year-round. And flannel lined Levi/wrangler jackets are real common, even after the first snows fall. And so far, this year, the last ones haven't quite quit.

I'm more inclined to first drop the guy wearing a longer field jacket or parka, a raincoat or western duster out of season or local weather conditions. Think Doc Holliday with the sawed-off double barrel shotgun at the OK Corral at Tombstone, carried butt-in-the-armpit [*211 sling*] under a long coat.

99 posted on 04/29/2017 6:15:11 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: archy

Another stupid post.


100 posted on 04/29/2017 6:26:37 AM PDT by TexasGator
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