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To: Swordmaker
#7: "Apple was the "A" in ARM when it was founded."

Interesting. But are you sure? There are several versions of that story. Wikipedia says that it originally meant Acorn RISC Machine, and later Advanced RISC Machine. Whatever. I'd like to see a tricked out desktop motherboard running ARM … just 'cause.

10 posted on 04/26/2017 10:35:09 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (I don't see a possum.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
We're both wrong in a way. . . I've seen it listed with "Apple RISC Machine" when it was used in the Newton for years because the small, low power processor was developed under contract since 1988 from Apple and Apple WAS one of the cofounders in 1990 of Advanced RISC Machines, Ltd. and the majority money source and stockholder. . . but Apple is known for putting their name on chips, even back in those days.

"The company was founded in November 1990 as Advanced RISC Machines Ltd and structured as a joint venture between Acorn Computers, Apple Computer (now Apple Inc.) and VLSI Technology. The new company intended to further the development of the Acorn RISC Machine processor, which was originally used in the Acorn Archimedes and had been selected by Apple for their Newton project. Its first profitable year was 1993. The company's Silicon Valley and Tokyo offices were opened in 1994. ARM invested in Palmchip Corporation in 1997 to provide system on chip platforms and to enter into the disk drive market. In 1998 the Company changed its name from Advanced RISC Machines Ltd to ARM Ltd. The Company was first listed on the London Stock Exchange and NASDAQ in 1998 and by February 1999, Apple's shareholding had fallen to 14.8%."

Acorn had the original RISC concept and original design, but was on the ropes, Apple had the money and a product in which to use the design, and VLSI was the IC design house and chip foundry who had done the original design work on the RISC processor. It was a natural partnership.

My educated guess is that ARM really is now an acronym for Advanced RISC Machine, as APPLE, the major stockholder would not allowed a lesser partner's name to remain on it. . . especially on that had gotten its start making Apple II clones in Britain. I remember the Acorn and Orange British clones back in the early 80s and Stave Jobs was not pleased, especially when they started importing some to the USA.

Apple still holds the largest single block of shares, but not controlling interest. Apple does however own joint rights to the ARM architecture. . . which is one smart thing the post/pre Steve Jobs Apple CEOs did right.

My recollection of where I heard it was from a Steve Jobs interview. . . but he had selective memory on some of those things in favor of Apple.

I Note one major error in the articles on the Acorn RISC based desktops. They claim to have been the first RISC based desktop computers but that is clearly wrong. The Commodore Amiga, released a good three years prior to the Acorn, was the first RISC based desktop computer.

20 posted on 04/26/2017 11:38:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
I'd like to see a tricked out desktop motherboard running ARM … just 'cause.

There are repeated rumors that Apple is considering a low end iMac with an A11 or A12 processor. There are versions of MS Windows that will run on ARM.

22 posted on 04/26/2017 11:50:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
My god now we’re no longer mammals

Get a Raspberry Pi.

40 posted on 04/27/2017 8:02:25 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
I'd like to see a tricked out desktop motherboard running ARM

THIS is why I thought you should get a Raspberry Pi.

42 posted on 04/27/2017 8:04:36 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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