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Don't be afraid of the HDR format wars (Smart TV , Android TV, 4K TV...)
theverge.com ^ | Jan 5, 2017, 3:12pm EST | Chaim Gartenberg

Posted on 04/23/2017 11:53:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

This year at CES, HDR support is the buzzword heard from almost every single TV manufacturer, culminating in this frightening-looking slide from LG which proudly promised its set would be compatible with all four major HDR standards.

Things aren't quite as problematic as they seem

As a consumer, that many different video standards is a daunting idea that brings to mind the format wars of yore (think VHS vs. Betamax or Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD). Fortunately, while the fact that there are now four standards — HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG, and Advanced HDR — for companies and consumers to consider when it comes to new televisions, the reality is that things aren't quite as problematic as they seem.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: abdroidtv; hitech; smarttvs
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To: TexasGator

You need to bother to read ENTIRE posts, not just single sentences. As I pointed out in that post, which you ignored, and now you just admitted EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. You won’t get the enhanced video, which means you lost the format wars.


81 posted on 04/23/2017 2:34:33 PM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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To: TexasGator

Maybe you should stop insulting and bother to read what I actually said, since you just admitted I was right the entire time.


82 posted on 04/23/2017 2:35:15 PM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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To: Enlightened1

https://youtu.be/K3_HHZFi0As


83 posted on 04/23/2017 2:44:29 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

LOL!


84 posted on 04/23/2017 2:47:38 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: All

FWIW HDR is a bigger deal then the HD to 4K advancement. HDR content is very noticeable. The big problem with 4K and HDR is content and delivery of said content. Streaming is so compressed that the picture quality of a 4K stream is about what you get with a Blu Ray disc with mediocre audio.
The only way to get the full effect is a UHD DVD. So the odds are you have never actually seen true 4K with HDR content. It is quite spectacular if you do see it.


85 posted on 04/23/2017 2:51:45 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: discostu

“Because it’s not just about the TVs it’s about the peripherals.”

You can play VHS and Beta on either the HD-10 or Dolby Vision TV!


86 posted on 04/23/2017 2:58:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Strawman question. If my TV is Dolby Vision (no multi-support) and my BluRay is HDR10 (single support) I won’t get the enhanced video, you admitted that yourself. Sure I can play it at regular HD but if I shelled out the extra cash for HDR I want HDR not HD. Which means, just like I said 30 freaking posts ago, if I bet wrong I’m up the creek. Getting to still play stuff at a lower quality than I paid for is cold comfort at best.


87 posted on 04/23/2017 3:02:38 PM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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To: TexasGator
However, you want a cable that supports ALL the features of the HDMI 2.0 standard. Only the newest cables support this, so if you're getting them from a place like Monoprice make sure the cable supports HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2.
88 posted on 04/23/2017 3:04:35 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: TexasGator

That article isn’t entirely accurate. Yes, the cable doesn’t matter as long as the device sending the data is sending it a speed the cable can handle and the distance is short. Most HDMI devices that you connect to your TV aren’t going to push data at a rate that will require a high performance cable.


89 posted on 04/23/2017 3:07:33 PM PDT by PJBankard
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To: RayChuang88

“However, you want a cable that supports ALL the features of the HDMI 2.0 standard. Only the newest cables support this, so if you’re getting them from a place like Monoprice make sure the cable supports HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. “

It’s just a dumb cable. All the HDMI cables support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP.


90 posted on 04/23/2017 3:26:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: discostu

“and my BluRay is HDR10 (single support) “

Ultra HD Blu-ray players will play both HD-10 and Dolby Vision.


91 posted on 04/23/2017 3:37:40 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Most of the tv shows I watch are from decades past when 480 resolution was the norm. I simply do not like most shows today. The writing is bad.

I see my 30 year co-workers staring at their cell phone screens watching shows so the high resolution would be meaningless for them.


92 posted on 04/23/2017 3:42:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where was this warning when it was the 8-track versus cassestte wars, or the VHS or Beta wars, or the cassette versus CD wars or the the CD wars versus Bluray wars or the the CD versus digital music wars or the war on poverty or the war on drugs or The Art of War?


93 posted on 04/23/2017 4:20:55 PM PDT by zaxtres
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To: TexasGator
And still is. We use component from a DVD player and it looks just fine on our big screen TV.

Most peoples vision and eyes can't tell the difference. Where it makes a difference is when the screen gets bigger and there is a practical limit here.

Plus, that means more digital data in the form of storage and over the Internet.

94 posted on 04/23/2017 5:52:13 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

“Where it makes a difference is when the screen gets bigger and there is a practical limit here.”

My 65” upscales 480 DVDs very nicely.


95 posted on 04/23/2017 5:58:17 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
Exactly.

Seems like they have reached the limit for pushing new technology. Just MO.

It would be nice if they put more smarts in a TV. Actually, the technology has converged for that too — you can hook up your PC to flat panel TVs and with a bluetooth or wireless keyboard, you are all set.

I guess that it would be nice to have an HD system that fills up the whole wall. Then, maybe the 4K TV makes sense. But of course, then you need 4K media to take advantage of it and how motivated are companies to provide the ultra HD media? Can ISPs support that kind of data rate? Don't think so.

96 posted on 04/23/2017 7:00:04 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

” Can ISPs support that kind of data rate? Don’t think so. “

Netflix requires almost 20 Mbps but they are saying soon they will need only 9 Mbs per 4k HDR movie stream.


97 posted on 04/23/2017 7:02:40 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

20Mbs — isn’t that the lower limit for HD (bluray)?

Major compression?


98 posted on 04/23/2017 7:06:24 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: TexasGator

no i mean ‘good LED’s’ Been to many stores- checking them out- all major brands- all price ranges- haven’t come across one yet that doesn’t experience fade- Soem are a bit better than others- but none have the viewing ngles that OLEDS and CRT’s have that i have seen


99 posted on 04/23/2017 7:15:10 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: TexasGator

no- i meant OLED’s burn in- here’s an article talking about it0- seen many such articles on them- with today’s logos on all the time, like fox news logos, discovery channel ones etc- it could be an issue if one has the oleds on one channel throughout the day- Will it occure? probably not- but in more constant situations, it could

https://www.cnet.com/news/seven-problems-with-current-oled-televisions/


100 posted on 04/23/2017 7:21:21 PM PDT by Bob434
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