Posted on 04/23/2017 11:53:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
This year at CES, HDR support is the buzzword heard from almost every single TV manufacturer, culminating in this frightening-looking slide from LG which proudly promised its set would be compatible with all four major HDR standards.
Things aren't quite as problematic as they seem
As a consumer, that many different video standards is a daunting idea that brings to mind the format wars of yore (think VHS vs. Betamax or Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD). Fortunately, while the fact that there are now four standards — HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG, and Advanced HDR — for companies and consumers to consider when it comes to new televisions, the reality is that things aren't quite as problematic as they seem.
(Excerpt) Read more at theverge.com ...
Actually be sure to get the CHEAPEST HDMI cables because there is absolutely ZERO difference and anybody that tells you otherwise is lying.
“OLED is awesome for deep rich blacks, ...”
Racist. ;-)
2800 bucks for a Samsung QLED 7 !
Give Me some Air!
“Enough to know they didn’t bother to learn a damn thing from previous format wars. “
Have you ever heard of Dolby Digital?
For example, if a broadcast comes over in Dobly 5.1 it will still play on any sound system, even a mono cell phone.
If you hook up a compatible Dolby device with all the speakers you will get the enhanced sound.
You really need to read the whole article. Particularly this part:
“Advanced HDR broadcasts probably won’t require you to buy a new TV set. Instead of pigeonholing content by warring standards like the HD-DVD and Blu-ray battle, HDR is more of a spectrum of quality instead of a group of wholly incompatible mediums.”
Except it’s NOT like that. The problem here is if I go Sony who’s gone Dolby Vision and then Dolby Vision loses to HDR10 nobody is going to support it. While I’ll still be able to get NON-HDR content just fine on my Sony (like the non-Dolby) I’m not going to get HDR content because it’ll all be in HDR10 and I’ll have dead Dolby. YOU really need to read the whole artilce, particularly this part:
Meanwhile, Samsung — one of the biggest HDR10 proponents — seems to still be sticking exclusively with that standard even with its newly announced flagship sets, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be missing out on any HDR content.
Of course, all this only is true if manufacturers decide to provide support for the various formats.
If you want to place your bets great, your money, but don’t come crying to me if you bet wrong. I’ve been through format wars, I know how this works, anybody saying there’s no possibility of getting hosed because you picked wrong is full of crap. PERIOD.
This article is from 2010 or before 4K TVs were well in the market.
Keep in mind this writter thinks Vista and Windows 7 operate at the same speed.... That should tell you everything you need to know for their knowledge.
Oh and the Gold tip HDMIs do not cost that much, and yes they do make a difference.
You can find articles from people saying the Earth is flat, the sky is green and the grass is really blue. Although the writters may really belive it.... That does not make it the case.
Putting cheap cables on a nice TV is like putting cheap tires on a fancy car.
Each to their own I guess?
I saw my first 4k screen a few years ago and it was stunning. It was, however, several thousand dollars. Given the lack of 4k content it was something to keep an eye out for in the future. Jump forward to sometime in 2014 and I saw a 4k OLED display. This was STUNNING !!!. Between the difference in resolution versus HD and the black blacks of the OLED thecnology it was the finest video image I'd ever seen in my life and comparable to 60 inch prints of medium format film negatives scanned to create 300 megabyte files that were printed with a Lightjet printer. It was also $10,000. Roughly a year later Microcenter had it on sale for $2,000. Again, lack of content as well as the price made me say “Someday”
Last Thanksgiving I broke down and got a 42 inch LG 4k screen for $300. It is serving as my main computer monitor as well as my main TV. It does an OK job of up-converting SD and HD material and, while there is still a relatively limited amount of source material in 4k there is a growing supply on Youtube, enough to keep me happy.
For $300 you do not get a $10,000 picture, but, given the right source material it is closer than one might think. Fireworks in 4k for instance. When looking at the black sky it is washed-out and no match for OLED. When the fireworks start going off you no longer notice it. On the limited 4k content with HDR the image comes very close to what I've seen on OLED screens.
Let's look at that paragraph:
Meanwhile, Samsung — one of the biggest HDR10 proponents — seems to still be sticking exclusively with that standard even with its newly announced flagship sets, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be missing out on any HDR content.
That’s like putting cheap used tires on a high end car and expecting it to perform the same.
“This article is from 2010 or before 4K TVs were well in the market.”
Here is one from 2016:
https://www.cnet.com/news/ads-voice-assistants-amazon-alexa-google-home-burger-king/
“That’s like putting cheap used tires on a high end car and expecting it to perform the same.”
LOL! No convincing those that have been sucked in by the Best Buy salesman.
And they’re WRONG, as they admit in the next sentence: Of course, all this only is true if manufacturers decide to provide support for the various formats.
Because the manufacturers will NOT provide support for multiple formats. People insisted HDDVD and BluRay could peacefully coexist too, until it became obvious they couldn’t. Learn from history, people who bet wrong in format wars ALWAYS get stuck with dead end technology that isn’t supported and cannot make use of the high end features that’s why they bought it in the first place.
No. It’s like putting expensive air in those tires and expecting it to be any different. All HDMI cables are built the same. If you bought Monster cables you got ripped off.
Oooh, that really Hertz!
“On the limited 4k content with HDR the image comes very close to what I’ve seen on OLED screens. “
My wife usually doesn’t see differences in TVs although she is thrilled with our Samsung 8000 we bought a few years ago.
A couple of weeks ago I took her to Best Buy and from about 30 feet she said she saw an amazing difference between the Samsung QLED and the Samsung SUHD next too it.
The QLED is outstanding.
“Heck I have radios for which the AM dial only goes up to 1600 kilocycles.”
The dial stops at 1600 because AM frequencies do not go above 1600.
Above 1600 you have the short-wave frequencies.
I once was helping a friend with a home theater installation, and needed a long HDMI cable. Went to the Best Buy, and looked at all the Monster Cables on display, and couldn't find one long enough. I asked the sales guy if they had longer ones, and he went in the back and brought out a generic cable from their secret stash that was exactly what I wanted, and it was much cheaper than the Monsters.
Haha! No I did not talk to the Best Buy salesman.
I paid about $12 each for a total of 2 HDMI cables or about $30 with taxes on Amazon.
This is the kind of HDMIs I’m talking about.
Did you go 8-track?
Yes it is.
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