But Stephen Decatur and his men aboard the sloop Intrepid got the job done and lived to defeat the pirates another day on the shores of Tripoli....
Posted on 03/24/2017 1:41:29 PM PDT by drewh
Nope, not for 80-95% of Obamacare remaining.
Guenevere, do you think we have 197 Conservatives in the House?
197 people were ready to sign on to this nonsense. You know which 197 they were as well as I do.
They were not Conservatives.
Ask yourself why the 40 said no. Was it to stick it to Trump?
They saw it for what it was just like I and many others did.
Sorry, I could not back this plan.
Keep your slist just make sure you have the right little sh&ts on it Steve.
I think most adults know that Medicare is the only game in town for those 65 and over. I don’t know a single person that expected any new health care plan to abandon it.
It wasn’t set up as part of Obamacare. It isn’t what our focus was on right now.
We are addressing private health care insurance in this nation. With insurance companies dropping out, Obamacare would have wound up single payer at some point. Game set match to Obama...
We didn’t want that. We wanted the government to get out of the markets Obamacare was set up to take over. We wanted a proliferation of insurance plans, the exact opposite of what Obamacare was designed to produce.
Medicare and MediCaid were not set up under Obamacare, although some states blew out MediCaid by covering indigents under that.
I support privatization of Social Security and Medicare. That will take 25-40 years. People entering the work force now would contribute to a plan that would be their own vested retirement and health care account.
Government would be out of everything but MediCaid in 25-40 years.
I want to see full employment and very few people on MediCaid. In ten years I’d like to see fewer than 15 million on it.
As the privatization of Social Security and Medicare progressed, I’d eventually like to see it lower than ten million, hopefully around 5 or less.
I didn’t ask for a history lesson...a simple YES would have done it. :)
Well, yes and no. You may have understood the whole picture, but some others coming through the thread wouldn’t have.
I’m not really sure why you asked, unless you had a gotsha moment in mind.
We all know it’s a government program.
Those of us who were offered nothing better over the 40+ years we worked, don’t have the choices I would like to have.
It is my hope that now that we have a crew of our own in power, they can step up and replace these programs with something our Founders would have saluted.
Get government out of it. Bring it into the private sector. End more programs so the Left can’t demagogue the issues associate with them for future votes.
Social Security, Medicare, Local Schools... get government out of them. I’m probably forgetting some things. Whatever we can get government out of, we’ll be better off.
Leftists won’t have a basis for bribing folks in these areas, to “get something” for a vote.
“Well, yes and no. You may have understood the whole picture, but some others coming through the thread wouldn’t have.”
OK...I get it:)
BTW .. Here’s Trump’s take on the bill and the Freedom Caucus...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537863/posts
‘Hello, Bob’: President Trump called my cellphone to say that the health-care bill was dead
I read that a few minutes ago. Thanks for the tip and link.
It was fairly level headed. I’m sure he’s a bit disappointed.
He may come to appreciate this day, and the fact that he got a mulligan out of it.
My mom just went on Medicare and loves it! She actually pays more than she did when she worked (her union had a generous medical plan) but has had a great experience so far on Medicare. Has that been you experience? I’m predicting that a single payer option is the next step for Trump.
“My mom just went on Medicare and loves it!”
I live in Florida and we have what’s called MedicareAdvantage and it’s great. Depending on where you live in the state (the higher population density, the better) you can actually pay no premium and you get most of the Medicare monthly fee back....about $1,100 a year!!
They have very good networks of doctors and specialists and the drug plan part of it is great as well.
“I read that a few minutes ago. Thanks for the tip and link”
No problem:)
This is all smoke and mirrors by Bannon and Trump. Thanks to the defeat, Trump can wash his hands and say, “send me some better Congressmen so I can kill this thing.”
But Stephen Decatur and his men aboard the sloop Intrepid got the job done and lived to defeat the pirates another day on the shores of Tripoli....
I decided it was a fail when some GOP flack basically said, “We’ve gotta pass it to find out what’s in it.”
So I asked an old salt, a sailor since 1933, what he thought of the AHCA and he said, “It’s spinach and I say to **** with it!”
Back to the drawing boards.
And get rid of Ryan!
I guess there is more than one way to drain a swamp.
Maybe it’s just an old fashioned concept. Cortez burned his boats and took his 150 men to conquer the Aztecs. Of course he also had as allies a lot of angry Tlaxcallans and other tribes that were mighty tired of being eaten by Aztecs. A recent predecessor of the Aztec’s leadership had proposed to make the Tlaxcallans our bread. In fact in Aztec (Nauhatl language) tlaxcalli is the word for tortillas.
Even President Trump is recognizing that it might be necessary to work with Democrats to get a better bill. For some weird reason the title of the link refers to Manafort. In fact the article is a time line of the President’s reactions to what is happening with the health care bill. Here are two quotes from the article below:
“President Donald Trump says he would be willing to reopen negotiations for a health care bill with Democrats if the Affordable Care Act fails.
Trump told reporters Friday that he would be ‘open to it’ if Democrats wanted to work on a bipartisan measure. He predicted the current law would soon collapse.”
Anybody but me sick and tired of hearing from that jackass and his buddies named "Anonymous sources"?
They're the most quoted sources in the entire world and for the most part, full of crap.
“This is totally fake news. The freedom caucus saved the country from more socialism!!”
The members of congress that saved Trump from this viper’s nest replacement bill, are his allies, not his enemies.
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