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To: Swordmaker
So much for YOUR distortions and lies...

Here's what an "independent" tester found...

As he summarized (from testing the A10 Fusion and the Snapdragon 821):

"Millions of Qualcomm and Apple processors are being used right now in handsets all across the globe. When taken as a whole package including the CPU, GPU, ISP, DSP, and modem there are pros and cons on both sides. Clearly both processors are advanced pieces of tech. The Snapdragon 821 is the more rounded processor since it contains an integrated LTE modem, the same type of modem that is used by the iPhone 7, plus support for quick charging and more graphic APIs (OpenGL ES 3.2 + Vulkan). And this fits with Qualcomm’s business model, the Snapdragon series are mobile processors that are sold to OEMs to build phones, tablets, set-top boxes, media players, whatever. The A10 is designed specifically for one thing, the iPhone (and maybe later the iPad).

As for performance, it seems clear that the A10 Fusion has the upper-hand, however not by much, but that does depend on the workload. In some of AnTuTu sub-tests the Snapdragon 821 matched the performance of the A10 and for my home brew tests written in C then the Snapdragon 821 actually beat the A10!

In terms of power efficiency it is hard to say, power is used by some many components in a smartphone including the CPU, GPU, memory, various Wi-Fi and cellular radios, etc. But from what I see there isn’t much between the two SoCs.

As a final word, I know this article will stir up various “fanboy” sentiments, all I can ask is that you remember that there are lots of problems in the world and lots of reasons why people get angry with each other, however which smartphone you use shouldn’t be one of them."


Meanwhile the biggest issue which I presented in my prior posts, is that of price, and why would anyone in his/her right mind want to pay 3 times as much for an iPhone7 when the specs and performances aren't worth that much in the difference? You can't argue that any iPhone is that much better than the specs for the Snapdragon 821 phone that I mentioned earlier.

And, in fact, the overall specs of the phone I mentioned earlier are superior to those of the iPhone 7 or 7S.

How much more would an iPhone 7/7S cost if the storage were to be 64GB and/or the main memory were to be upped to 4GB, or the screen were to be higher than 1080P, or came with 2 high-resolution cameras, and cloud storage of 1TB FOR FREE, and/or 2 year warranty, and fingerprint recognition, and that could do everything (and oftentimes more) that come by way of apps, expandable storage by way of a memory slot, dual window, plus a bunch of other stuff?

Though Apple might have won in certain aspects when compared to the Snapdragon 821, one has to keep in mind that, the processor alone does not make the smartphone, so, when it comes to the whole smartphone with specs and features, the iPhone 7 comes up real short.

No doubt that, for the extras that come with the Snapdragon phone which I got my wife, that Apple would likely double the price of their current offerings in the iPhone 7 line. And yet, I only paid about 1/3 of the price of the current iPhone 7S, for something that is actually superior to that iPhone 7S.

And, btw, it's kind of a role reversal for the iPhone loyal fanatics, who are not claiming that, higher resolution doesn't really matter, while a few years ago, higher resolution was the biggest selling point for Apple and the biggest reason that the iFanatics went for those iPhones a few years ago. Can you spell: HYPOCRITES!!!
127 posted on 03/22/2017 4:31:02 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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To: adorno
How much more would an iPhone 7/7S cost if the storage were to be 64GB and/or the main memory were to be upped to 4GB, or the screen were to be higher than 1080P, or came with 2 high-resolution cameras, and cloud storage of 1TB FOR FREE, and/or 2 year warranty, and fingerprint recognition, and that could do everything (and oftentimes more) that come by way of apps, expandable storage by way of a memory slot, dual window, plus a bunch of other stuff?

Though Apple might have won in certain aspects when compared to the Snapdragon 821, one has to keep in mind that, the processor alone does not make the smartphone, so, when it comes to the whole smartphone with specs and features, the iPhone 7 comes up real short.

Real short? How? You have not enumerated anything that reaches that level. You listed a higher, but useless screen resolution, that slows the graphic handling down immensely in every case. The processor only beats the Apple's in one instance, but that is because the test is optimized for JAVA code for testing for C compiling. Other benchmarks that test the same mathematics the A10fusion came out ahead. Unsecure expandable, but far slower memory cards. A high pixel count camera with lesser quality CCD, that doesn't qualify in quality to the ratings the iPhone camera gets from professional photographers. . . who use the iPhone camera for professional work, including making full length feature films, photo layouts in mainstream magazines including National Geographic, several covers of Time, Photography, Vogue, etc. What magazines has your 18Mpixel camera been used for? None, right?

Again, where are you going to be able to use your 2year warranty to get that phone repaired?

You make assumptions about what an Apple iPhone would cost with the features your no-name Chinese Android phone has, claiming it would be double what it is now., but in my view, it already bests the features your phone has. . and is better quality all around. . . and is backed by an American company. The reviews that place the Apple iPhone at the top are unequivocal. It is the best and fastest. Your phone is not even in the running. You won't even name what the maker is.

The final proof you have no factual argument worthy of the name is you always resort to ad hominem insults such as iFanatics and iZombies. That alone is enough to show you up for an Anti-Apple Hate Brigade Thread Troll.

130 posted on 03/23/2017 1:46:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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