[jeffersondem]

“He as much as anyone not only brought on the Civil War but saddled us with a two-party system based on spoils/patronage/money but also ensured (because of that) that government would inexorably grow.”

The disaster at Appomattox ensured the federal government would inexorably grow. No one can say “no” to the government in Washington - and live.

[LS]

Nonsense. The “disaster” at Appomattox showed that you cannot own slaves and profess freedom. CSA Constitution was all about slavery, mentioning it THREE times specifically.

Democrats are still all about slavery. It was the essence of the South and the essence of the new welfare Dem slavery party, and I hope CA tries secession cause it too will see its little Appomattox.