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My First Time Using Bear Spray
Backpacker ^ | Mar 10, 2017 | Mike Hittle

Posted on 03/13/2017 4:45:16 PM PDT by SJackson

A reader visits a notorious site in Glacier National Park—and comes back with a story of his own.

Why did I get so infatuated with Trout Lake? First, some history: Back in 1967, on a single night, Glacier National Park had two fatal grizzly attacks. They were the first ones ever in the park. One of them was at Trout Lake.

Forty-three years later I was working at the park’s dispatch office and I found the original incident report. I’ll confess my brain doesn’t work like other people’s—I was soon convinced I needed to visit the place so I could see my first grizzly.

My first attempt was in early June and I got maybe 2.5 miles—halfway to the lake. I came to the top of Howe Ridge and it was just white—no trees, no nothing. I was alone. I turned around.

The second time, there was no snow on the ridge, but every 100 feet or so, there was a fresh pile of bear scat. Soon, I reached a slide path: Where the trail should have been was anyone’s guess because there was just debris. That was the end of trip number two.

I was frustrated but not defeated. For the third try, I went in the height of summer, intending to hike past Trout Lake to explore the waterfall-rich drainage behind it.

But really, I was hoping to see a grizzly. I was on my own, so I was being very cautious about the bear spray. Somebody I worked with told me that to really be prepared, I should make sure the safety was off. Otherwise, by the time I saw the bear, it’d be too late.

I got to the ridge where I’d lost the trail, no problem. I got to the place where the avy had been, no problem. I kept going and finally reached the lake. I was feeling good and decided to take pictures.

I had my tripod with me and I set it up near a creek to do a nice long exposure of one of the waterfalls. When I went to pack up, I heard hissing. What the hell? I thought. Is that a snake? I saw this cloud of orange coming at me and my eyes went wide with surprise. The bear spray I’d accidentally fired wafted in from point-blank range. I instantly started gasping and wheezing. I doubled over, my eyes burning and filling with water. It was like chopping the hottest pepper imaginable and rubbing it in your face. I crawled over to the creek and dunked my head as though it were on fire, which it was.

I stumbled down the trail, blind and breathless, stopping to soak my face in every creek I could see with my swollen eyes. It took me four hours to get back to my car, gasping and coughing.

So yes, I made it to Trout Lake that day, and even got to enjoy it for a minute before I blinded myself. I’ve hiked to many other lakes in Glacier since then, but that was the last time I went to Trout Lake. I think maybe I’m not supposed to be back there. Never did see a grizzly.


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To: Candor7

My parents (who camped in both Yellowstone and Glacier when they were newly married) bought a Super Blackhawk when they first came out.

Something they related to me is that some people can handle the recoil of a .44 Magnum better with the “hawgleg” design of a Super Blackhawk better than a modern S&W/Colt DA frame. Once they saw a shooter firing a S&W .44 Magnum at a range...they were holding it wrong, and the recoiling pistol split the web of the guy’s hand.

I’ve read that .38 Super was once marketed as an anti-bear cartridge for its high velocity...any thoughts on this?


41 posted on 03/13/2017 6:33:10 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: TBall

Two words. Eye relief.

lol


42 posted on 03/13/2017 6:35:32 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: blueunicorn6
Ya woke Uncle Hortense from his nap. And didn't even bring coffee.

Humans can be so rude. :)

43 posted on 03/13/2017 6:40:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: M1903A1

When I was younger I noticed that the guys who really knew guns tended to carry .38 supers. It was probably as much a fad as anything else tho I guess it would be better than a lot.

If I could afford a new gun it probably would be a Glock, can’t recall the model number but the full size ones chambered for 10mm. They would seem to be a good choice for bears but the number of people who have actually had a lot of experience shooting them must be minuscule.

One of the best guns I ever owned and I have owned several hundred, was a Smith, model 57. About as good a choice for protection from large animals as any.


44 posted on 03/13/2017 6:43:21 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I looked over my shoulder once as I was running and I think Uncle Hortense was using the brush saw to cut Huckleberry branches.

I’m trying to remember if I ran faster from the bear or the bees that came roaring out after I cut into their nest in a fallen tree.

Try spraying them rascals with bear spray. That just ticks them off.


45 posted on 03/13/2017 6:51:28 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: M1903A1

And I recall my parents talking about bear attacks at Glacier after they had been there. At least one of them was a woman...they said it was speculated that she was menstruating at the time, and the bear picked up on that somehow as a rival threat.


46 posted on 03/13/2017 6:53:27 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: SJackson
This guy wins! Upgrade him to a ....


47 posted on 03/13/2017 7:04:38 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: bobby.223

48 posted on 03/13/2017 7:07:41 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: SJackson

Fool can’t even carry a can of bear meal seasoning.

Pathetic.


49 posted on 03/13/2017 7:12:40 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Daffynition

To hell with hand guns.

If I’m going into THAT guy’s neighborhood I’m taking my 7.62 x 54R or at least a 12 gauge rifled slug gun.


50 posted on 03/13/2017 7:18:49 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: 2111USMC

LOL...no bear bell? :)


51 posted on 03/13/2017 7:33:09 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Daffynition

I doubt anyone could hear the bear bells inside that guy’s stomach.


52 posted on 03/13/2017 7:39:24 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: 2111USMC
Is now the time to *RIP Tim Treadwell*?


[image not treadwell; bear *brutus*]

53 posted on 03/13/2017 7:46:34 PM PDT by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: Daffynition

LOL!


54 posted on 03/13/2017 7:50:58 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: SJackson

Bears love pepper spray. Adds spice to their meal.... you!


55 posted on 03/13/2017 7:59:17 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: KarlInOhio
"Hey Mexican food"

Exactly what I was thinking.

56 posted on 03/13/2017 8:00:38 PM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: bobby.223

My FIL is an old Alaska teacher. Carried his pistol at school as hungry bears were known to come into town.
When he moved there the old timers told him that if you were attacked by a bear and you were carrying a .357 the only thing to do was to put it in your mouth a pull the trigger. Everyone carried a .44 mag and many loaded their own extra hot rounds.
He joked that the gun was pretty good at stopping running in the hallways too.


57 posted on 03/13/2017 8:21:38 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: fungoking

Well said. I love the big bear guys.....but....if it comes to me or him/her....I HOPE TO HECK I have prepared right. Up here, you never know.


58 posted on 03/13/2017 9:09:40 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: SJackson

I’d only go into bear country armed.

That said, I’d prefer a Karelian Bear Dog as my first line of defense.


59 posted on 03/13/2017 9:11:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: M1903A1

Once they saw a shooter firing a S&W .44 Magnum at a range...they were holding it wrong, and the recoiling pistol split the web of the guy’s hand.>>>>>>>>>>

I can’t hold a S&W properly. To much distance from the back strap to the trigger, my trigger finger is then not long enough to squeeze properly with the gun lined up center web between thumb and forefinger.If an S&W would fit my hand, I would use one. But Colts and Rugers are about 1/4 inch shorter in that distance.

Also one should not fire a 44 magnum without a nice uninsulated thin leather glove.I use driving gloves. It keeps the best grip on the gun so it won’t roll back.Its not the scales or backstrap of the gun that can split the web of one’s hand, but the hammer rolling back into the web of ones grip. That can slice you between thumb and forefinger pretty badly.

I always fire with a two handed grip. To fire off handed would require hands the size of cabbages.I also know from experience that I can only fire 3 successive shots accurately , after that, my right hand goes wobbly.It takes about 7 minutes rest before I can fire another 3 rounds accurately.

But three rounds should be enough to dispatch any bear if one stands and shoots. Anyone who runs from a bear and then tries to fire a .44 magnum while out of breath is really asking to be eaten.

A .38 super just is not a heavy enough bullet.

The smallest pistol bullet anyone should use on a bear is a .44 magnum, and even then one should use hollow points.


60 posted on 03/13/2017 9:39:57 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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