Posted on 03/11/2017 9:06:18 AM PST by George Rand
Hello fellow Americans, and God Bless.
I've been reading up on the Healthcare plan that is being constructed, and you know, I just do not understand why Trump is not making a big deal of this.
It's not all that different from Obamacare, its just obamacare light.
So help me make sense of this. Why does Trump keep Paul Ryan if the guy is as useless as all get out- why does he promote this bill if it gets backlash?
I understand the 4d Chess perspective, but passing something just as ineffective seems pointless. pointless. What is the end game here?
This is not a plan. Its just the revenue and and expense portion. So there are lots of things not there.
But you have to realize that Obamacare is too things (at least). One is just a huge expansion of Medicaid. The other is insurance. The Medicaid portion is bankrupting our country. The insurance portion is folding. So we need to cut the cost of the Medicaid. And we need to make the insurance portion viable.
There are two things in Obamacare that congress has agreed to keep. One is the new number of people on Medicaid. And the other is the rule that pre-existing conditions be covered by insurance.
The real problem with healthcare is that it costs too much. Way more than it should. And no we don’t have better healthcare than other countries. Its in many ways worse. And no, the free market was not running healthcare before. Its always been bad. Drugs are ridiculous. An absolute scam that rewards longer therapy, not cures.
What we need to do is to have the government pay the average rate of the G20. Let each country in the G20 set the prices with the drug companies. America will pay the average of that. Its a huge amount of money for a drug that is worth it. And the drug company can choose to make the drug or not. Drug companies should never be allowed to make deals where one company agrees to not make or sell a drug. In every other industry this is called anti-trust. Its an agreement not to compete and it only has the purpose of lowering competition and screwing consumers.
It works this way. A drug company is about to loose its patent. So they make a deal with a generic to let them produce the drug but they agree to not sell it or to not sell another drug. Or to not sell it for its most lucrative usage. The whole point is to extend the monopoly of the patent past its end date.
The lie that drug companies need to make profits to pay for research is just so wrong. Most of the larger drug companies don’t actually do much research on drugs. The research they do is to figure out ways to package the drugs they have to make more products or to increase the time under patent. Biotech companies do most of the research to create new drugs. They tend to be smaller and are paid off when they find a winner and sell themselves or the rights to a larger drug company. This is often the end of those who get paid 100s of millions. They stop research and buy an island. So we are paying our top people to stop researching. And the biggest price goes to those who can find long therapies. Not to those who can find cures. In fact cures can be detrimental as they can stop a company from getting recurring revenue from a long therapy.
https://www.conservativereview.com/authors/dan-bongino If you really want to know how to fix Obamacare, you need to listen to Dan Bongino. His podcast is short and sweet
Ryancare doesn’t even have enough votes to get out of the House, so don’t worry about the Senate too much.
Obama wasn’t worried because he knew the attendants of Fedzilla in Congress will never reduce the power of Fedzilla.
The eunuchs of the Uniparty are there to attend to the needs of Fedzilla. Ryancare makes sure that the power over healthcare remains with Fedzilla.
If anything it demonstrates the need to repeal first.
Do the “replace” part separately, if at all.
The problem is that while patriots won Trump, they didn’t win the 60, post-17th Amendment ratification Senate majority votes required to pass Trumpcare to repeal Obamacare, regardless that patriots have now had four election cycles to replace 133% of the Senate with conservatives, but have won only simple majority control, whatever that is worth.
So angry, low-information Trump supporters can point their fingers at themselves with respect to Trump having to kill Obamacare in pieces.
I think that constitutionally low-information Trump’s campaign promise to repeal Obamacare raised patriots hopes too high, not that Trump and the post-17A ratification Congress won't continue to work to water down Obamacare as much as they can.
Corrections, insights welcome.
Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!
Remember in November ’18 !
Since Trump entered the ’16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the ’18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.
Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.
Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February ‘18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.
Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed below.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Trump managed to give the GOP both houses and the presidency.
Rest assured these low-T buttwipes will lose them all.
And, rest just as assured, we will NOT let the libs rule without revolting.
Perhaps it’s time to just get it over with and........
There seems to be a requirement this bill be passed without the bipartisan support it needs. All the talk about passing it with simple majority is going to backfire. Obamacare passed without a single GOP vote.
the question is why can the bill for genetic testing be going through legislative process, but not the legislation for expanding between states?
Genetic testing- search term on FR
House GOP would let employers demand workers’ genetic test results
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3533477/posts
Its the opening bid in a negotiation, stay tuned. No negotiator expects his first offer to be accepted. Nor does he put it out and say “I konw this is crap and you won’t accept it, but here it is”.
Not getting fined by the federal government for refusing to buy an overpriced product would represent progress.
Sad to say, but true.
Dump the PPACA and its fines into the rubbish heap of history.
Phase 1 will end Obamacare. The Senate rules for reconcilation with a Budget require what is being done to enable ending Obamacare with just 51 votes. Any other technique would allow filibusters and require 60 votes. No Democrat will vote for repeal.
Sit tight and let the system work. Investigate yourself and you will understand.
Could they be hung from the famous cherry trees? That would be a sight. However, I suspect lampposts could be pressed into service.
No matter what healthcare plan the government comes up with nobody wins with socialized medicine it never works note Englands’s mess.
Best bet let insurance companies cross state lines for better options.
“tax cuts”
We are just about done blowing another trillion or two away.
The Washington wolf is hitting his head on the debt ceiling again.
We all would like to see tax cuts, but federal spending is so voracious that tax cuts would be even more financially irresponsible at this point in time.
They say whatever they think we want to hear so they can get what they want. And once they get what they want, we don't even count.
We're going to have to hit the "reset" button at some point, else Western Civilization is finished. And liberals of both parties are not going to like the result.
Anyone elected to Congress is very quickly “not our friend.” If they do not know of the opportunities for permanent wealth available for toeing the line in Congress before they take their seats, they do within 24 hours. They have a choice: wealth and income for the rest of their lives if they do as they are told, even if they lose their next elections, or having to live on their own previous savings and their salaries. The salaries are formidable but a tiny thing compared to what they gain by co-operating.
Title XVIII and EMTALA, unless repealed, made nationalization not only inevitable but the only rational choice.
It is a prepaid health plan for the whole society that has the extra benefit of providing the livelihood for an army of bureaucrats, public and private and the benefit of shrinking the middle class for making the people easier to control and direct.
The good news is we’ve been pretty consistently gaining for quite some time, we captured the presidency for Pete’s sake, and if we can keep the ball rolling we could do very well in 18. Especially if the radical alt-left keep driving the voters right.
“It’s not healthcare, it’s health insurance...”
Correct. So sick of dim bulbs interchanging the two ignorantly and purposely. No matter what this Ryan/Obamacare 2.0 becomes, it will be branded Trumpcare and we will own it. Repeal is the only answer.
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