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US Navy's Ultimate Dream Weapon (That Russia Feared): Merging a Super Battleship: trunc
National Interest ^ | 24 Jan, 2016 | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 01/25/2017 6:15:48 PM PST by MtnClimber

Original title: US Navy's Ultimate Dream Weapon (That Russia Feared): Merging a Super Battleship and an Aircraft Carrier

In the early 1980s, the Reagan Administration was looking to fund high visibility defense programs. Reagan had been elected on a platform of rebuilding the armed services after the “hollowing out” of the early 1970s.

One example was the reactivation of four World War II-era Iowa-class battleships, which started in 1982. Each of the four ships, Iowa, Missouri, New Jersey and Wisconsin was refurbished, their sixteen and five-inch guns brought back online. Each battleship was also equipped with sixteen Harpoon anti-ship missiles, thirtytwo Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles and four Phalanx close-in weapon systems (CIWS) for defense.

The four battlewagons were swiftly retired after the end of the Cold War because the manpower-intensive vessels each required a crew of nearly two thousand. That made them early victims of the post-Cold War drawdown as the defense budget was sharply reduced. Today, all four serve as memorials or floating museums. Retirement put an end to future upgrades, which might have included the boldest of them all.

In the November, 1980 issue of the United States Naval Institute Proceedings, Captain Charles Myers, USN (retired) proposed reactivating the battleships with significant modifications to the aft section.The proposal envisioned deleting the number three turret near the stern and the three sixteen-inch guns housed in it.

In place of the number three turret would be an extraordinary set of armaments. A V-shaped, ramped flight deck would be installed, with the base of the V on the ship’s stern. Each leg of the V would extend forward, so that planes taking off would fly past the stacks and ship’s bridge. Two elevators would bring Boeing AV-8B Harrier II jump-jets up from a new hangar to the flight deck.

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1 posted on 01/25/2017 6:15:48 PM PST by MtnClimber
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Seems like a good concept. Need to look at defense against new chinese anti-ship missiles.
2 posted on 01/25/2017 6:17:57 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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WWII battleships have so much armor that modern missiles have no effect...


3 posted on 01/25/2017 6:18:26 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: MtnClimber

interesting read.


4 posted on 01/25/2017 6:19:52 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: MtnClimber; 2banana

ICE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS AND PYKRETE
http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi2720.htm


5 posted on 01/25/2017 6:21:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: MtnClimber

best concept:

US Navy’s Ultimate Dream Weapon (That Russia Feared): Merging a Super Battleship, an Aircraft Carrier, and a Submarine


6 posted on 01/25/2017 6:22:18 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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7 posted on 01/25/2017 6:23:36 PM PST by gaijin
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To: 2banana

I read somewhere on FR that the steel used to make the armor plate couldn’t be re-created/built again; the secret had been lost...

True?
Not true?


8 posted on 01/25/2017 6:24:46 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: bunkerhill7
close..?


9 posted on 01/25/2017 6:24:51 PM PST by gaijin
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To: 2banana

Ya right! Ever hear of the General Belgrano?


10 posted on 01/25/2017 6:26:24 PM PST by crz
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To: WildHighlander57

No secrets.

We just don’t have the industrial capacity anymore...


11 posted on 01/25/2017 6:26:40 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: MtnClimber
Some day..?

I feel sure they're working on SOMEthing like this...


12 posted on 01/25/2017 6:27:30 PM PST by gaijin
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To: WildHighlander57

I don’t think there is any secret to it but I have read that there is not a single steel mill left in the world which could produce battleship armor.

I guess they would have to start from scratch and build a mill first.


13 posted on 01/25/2017 6:28:14 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: MtnClimber
This was a REAL Japanese sub, 70 years ago:

They attacked Oregon using it and nearly attacked the Panama Canal.

14 posted on 01/25/2017 6:29:45 PM PST by gaijin
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To: MtnClimber
We'll take two. And Mexico can pay for them.

Missouri at Pearl, and the New Jersey at Norfolk.

15 posted on 01/25/2017 6:30:01 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Anything that comes out of the present Pentagon procurement process needs to be looked at cross-eyed by the American public. It has been a threat to national security and the economic welfare of the American citizens since before WWII. [the P-51 was built on spec by Dutch Kindelberger against the wishes of the War Department who further resisted turning it into the hot-rad it became with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine - at the insistence of the British]. These are the folks who built the F111 and resisted the far superior F16, and built the dog of an F35 - which is such a joke that it has become the but of official DoD procurement system courses. The list goes on of the wasted funds and botched procurements of DoD acquisitions.


16 posted on 01/25/2017 6:30:16 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: gaijin

Put wings on it, a nuclear powered jet engine and maybe we could put it in orbit.


17 posted on 01/25/2017 6:31:16 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: gaijin

Ok, now I have seen everything.


18 posted on 01/25/2017 6:32:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: gaijin

There were two of them, I believe.

One was sunk in a secret location a couple miles off of Oahu. It was feared the design would inspire the Russians who, because of some Yalta treaty gobbledigook, were technically entitled to inspect such captured weapons.

The risky part of this sub design was that setting up the steam-launch rail required the sub to be on the surface for a dangerous amount of time.

19 posted on 01/25/2017 6:34:25 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
The Japanese tried this in World War 2 with old dreadnoughts Ise & Hyuga. p  photo Ise-trials843_zpsdshfgtre.jpg

Our admirals of the 1980s should have remembered that these ships were not effective in either role.

20 posted on 01/25/2017 6:52:47 PM PST by henkster
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