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New website gives you the real deal on sea level rise and rates
https://wattsupwiththat.com/ ^ | January 21, 2017 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/22/2017 9:41:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 01/22/2017 9:41:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigersEye; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; ..
Wonderful for the techkies,....I am past being able to handle this stuff ....
2 posted on 01/22/2017 9:47:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is not the sea level that is changing. The volume of water on Earth is almost a constant. It is the ground that moves up or down which causes an apparent ‘change’ in sea level.

For instance, that last graph of the sea level change after an EARTHQUAKE.


3 posted on 01/22/2017 9:49:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I live just a few feet above sea level, and I live near one of the measurement stations.

But the data stopped at 1994.

I await a clear, easy to understand (and believe) explanation showing that mankind is causing the climate to be warmer, hence melting the polar ice caps, and making the seas rise.

I already know the planet got colder, hotter, colder BEFORE there was enough human activity to have caused it.


4 posted on 01/22/2017 9:58:19 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Your not thinking about WHO IS YOUR INTENDED AUDIENCE here!!!

I have two masters degrees and your information is overwhelming.

Why not have an executive summary page that the average folks can understand.


5 posted on 01/22/2017 10:01:43 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Halgr

On second thought, if you are proposing that sea levels are rising....I will avoid your presentation...as propaganda.


6 posted on 01/22/2017 10:06:59 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m in the same boat. But will go to What’s up site and bookmark this new link.


7 posted on 01/22/2017 10:14:08 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......but alas! Honor must be earned...)
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To: Halgr

Sea levels ARE rising, just not very much, not very fast, and it’s not worth worrying about at the moment (much less disrupting the economy). But to effectively argue with the global warming zealots, you need to bring as many facts to the table as you can, so the site seems useful.


8 posted on 01/22/2017 10:15:38 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: Halgr
The major resource here is DATA:

The Data Page

Sealevel.info has coastal Mean Sea Level (MSL) measurement data from more than 1200 tide gauges. (Currently, all of the data is from PSMSL and NOAA.) On the Data page you can:

9 posted on 01/22/2017 10:17:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Global warming folks have presented thousands of pages of DATA....but its all been manipulated.

How do you know that your data is real....frankly, I don’t think you can know that.


10 posted on 01/22/2017 10:35:30 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: UCANSEE2
It is not the sea level that is changing. The volume of water on Earth is almost a constant. It is the ground that moves up or down which causes an apparent ‘change’ in sea level.


In some areas of California and Arizona, the land elevation has subsided 15 feet or more in the last 50 years due to water pumping and they are worried that beach is shifting a few fractions of a millimeter every year.

BTW , much of San Francisco sits on land that was part of the bay and under water a century ago but has been reclaimed with land fill.

Parts of the Pilgrim's Plymouth Rock in . Pilgrim Memorial State Park is still in it's original location from 1620 and it is still at the same relative water level that it was in 1620

11 posted on 01/22/2017 11:46:48 PM PST by rdcbn (.... when Poets buy guns, tourist season is over ......d)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Love WUWT as a resource. I had actually looked at a couple of tide gauges and buoys near the midatlantic region years ago and found a minimal rise in those datasets. This opens up the idea to more thorough analysis.

Very near my home we can walk the creeks and where there are channels cut to 15-20 feet, we can dig fossils of giant clam shells out of the banks. Even my young son can see that this embankment was a marine environment with abundant geology to show that, “The only constant is change.”

The greens are scammers trying to separate folks from their money.


12 posted on 01/23/2017 1:13:18 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: truth_seeker

Water expands when it freezes. So if the ice melts the sea level will drop.


13 posted on 01/23/2017 1:48:18 AM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bookmark.


14 posted on 01/23/2017 2:57:06 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“apparent datum shifts”

Mentioned at the end and not to be overlooked.

The tide gauge uses a datum as a reference point. These are like survey markers put into the ground by USGS.

Those points are NOT fixed in space. Until they “map” those datums to true fixed points via satellite, you can really only use this data short term and not to identify a long term trend.


15 posted on 01/23/2017 3:00:34 AM PST by fruser1
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To: stockpirate

Stop with the science and logic.


16 posted on 01/23/2017 3:28:32 AM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Too intimidating for me, however, a section showing how hard women and children will be affected might be a nice touch.

Thanks for your work in this.

T


17 posted on 01/23/2017 4:02:01 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Ping.


18 posted on 01/23/2017 4:17:58 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: truth_seeker
I await a clear, easy to understand (and believe) explanation showing that mankind is causing the climate to be warmer, hence melting the polar ice caps, and making the seas rise.

Every working adult who checks the prognostications from the "weather predictors" knows that those said "predictors" cannot tell us with any real accuracy what will happen 10 minutes from now, 10 miles from here.

But using the same hardware and software they claim the ability to "know" what will be happening over the entire planet 100 years from now.

Sure.

19 posted on 01/23/2017 4:45:19 AM PST by Mrs.Z (Donald Trump... the guy who makes all the right people angry.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bmk


20 posted on 01/23/2017 5:01:59 AM PST by Popman
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