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1 posted on 01/22/2017 3:27:09 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

When Texas keeps discovering billions of barrels of fossil fuels to last hundreds of years, those subsidies ought to be GONE. If the wind and solar generators can make it on their own, fine, but no more handouts.


2 posted on 01/22/2017 3:29:05 PM PST by txrefugee
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Change to “....creates uncertainty for inept companies unable to make a profit without government support because they are crony Capitalism Dorkbama the Muslim eunuch supporters.”

There, fixed.


3 posted on 01/22/2017 3:30:46 PM PST by Da Coyote
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If there were any certainty to wind and solar power in the first place, government involvement would be irrelevant.


4 posted on 01/22/2017 3:32:03 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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It’s past time to stop making us pay for killing millions of eagles and other birds. And stop preventing us from filling in puddles in our driveways because it might inconvenience a frog.


5 posted on 01/22/2017 3:33:17 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Why?

Either it works or it doesn’t. Trump has no control over that.


7 posted on 01/22/2017 3:33:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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If states want to promote wind and solar, they can do so however don’t use my tax dollars. Neither wind nor solar can return their investment in dollars to reduce energy requirements.


8 posted on 01/22/2017 3:33:28 PM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex)
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Let me put it in my usual verbiage.

#### solar and wind power.

If it was so great, billions would have been invested by Silicon Valley and others already.

That didn’t happen.


9 posted on 01/22/2017 3:35:11 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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“...Trump’s victory creates uncertainty for wind and solar power...”

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Trump’s victory creates uncertainty for wind and solar power’s subsidies...

There...Fixed the title...


10 posted on 01/22/2017 3:36:00 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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Wind and solar energy are not cost effective but the money spent on them are offerings to the god giah the environmentalists god.
12 posted on 01/22/2017 3:38:03 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I’m all for renewable energy...

I just don’t want to subsidizing it with tax dollars...

If it is a viable energy source, it will stand on it own with capital investment...


13 posted on 01/22/2017 3:38:05 PM PST by Popman
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Hey, Obama stopped the rising of the oceans, why can’t Trump stop the Wind & Sunshine?

/S


14 posted on 01/22/2017 3:38:12 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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In the meantime, Atlanta Falcons 44 to Greenbay Packers 21, 4th quarter. Yeah buddy. Rise Up!


15 posted on 01/22/2017 3:38:40 PM PST by patro
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I saw where Wyoming recently passed a law that prevents the use of any renewable energy wind solar etc by utility companies. While you can argue the viability of renewable sources that doesn’t sound very free market to me.


16 posted on 01/22/2017 3:38:47 PM PST by Nomad577
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It doesn’t change anything unless wind and solar energy can’t compete in a free market.


19 posted on 01/22/2017 3:39:44 PM PST by upsdriver (I support Sarah Palin.)
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No subsidies. Make it pay or go away.


20 posted on 01/22/2017 3:40:52 PM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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Wind and solar power have no place where the power grid is in place.

I have used solar power in an off-grid location for 16 years, and it is a godsend there, but it makes no sense anywhere else.

Its a boondoggle.
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21 posted on 01/22/2017 3:41:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Here in CA, my energy provider, charges me tiered pricing for their product (electricity) I use. They charge me a “High usage Surcharge” penalty if I use too much. Geez, you’d think we were in an energy crisis.


22 posted on 01/22/2017 3:41:37 PM PST by umgud
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Wind and solar power are unreliable and are rarely cost effective. They would have faced a bleak future even with Jill Stein as president.


24 posted on 01/22/2017 3:43:19 PM PST by TChad (Propagandists should not be treated like journalists.)
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What this means for states’ efforts to promote continue to receive taxpayer monies for useless renewable energy is an open question.
25 posted on 01/22/2017 3:43:53 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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A few facts about renewables:

The Republican Congress extended the PTC (Production Tax Credit) for wind generation. The wind PTC was retroactively applied to 2015 and extended through 2016, after which it will decline each year until it fully expires in 2020.

The industry fully knows it will be done, gone forever, and they are fine with that, because it’s already possible to generate utility-scale wind at a cost that is competitive with other forms of generation without the PTC. They are ready and able to operate without government subsidies.

Solar is different because it has not yet achieved anywhere near the cost efficiency of wind, and will follow a different curve. The Investment Tax Credit (ITC) for solar will remain at the current 30-percent rate through 2019, after which it will fall to 26 percent in 2020, 22 percent in 2021, and 10 percent in 2022. So it too is set to sunset (pun intended).

In return for these goodies, Congress in 2015 lifted the 40-year ban on crude oil exports that began with the 1970s Oil Embargo Crisis.


26 posted on 01/22/2017 3:44:39 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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