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US plane is spotted in a mock dogfight with a Russian jet above the top secret Area 51 base
Daily Mail UK ^ | 07:39 EST, 17 January 2017 | Updated: 10:25 EST, 17 January 2017 | Darren Boyle

Posted on 01/17/2017 1:56:41 PM PST by PIF

These are the amazing scenes which show a Russian-built fighter jet taking on a US Air Force F-16 in a mock dogfight - in what could be a sign that America is preparing for the possibility of war with Moscow.

The images were captured by air traffic controller Phil Drake in the skies above Area 51 in Nevada, one of the world's most secret military bases, on the day Donald Trump was elected President.

According to Drake, the aircraft in the photographs are a single seater Sukhoi Su-27P and America's veteran F-16.

He was visiting the desert surrounding Area 51 on November 8, the day of the Presidential election. He hoped to see some fast jets involved in a training mission. This is the moment a US Air Force F-16 was photographed involved in a mock dogfight with a Russian SU-27 fighter

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: area51; f16; su27p
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To: silverleaf

I wonder if Colonel Flagg is aware of red flag?


21 posted on 01/17/2017 2:26:15 PM PST by Nekman (The Dems are SocialistCommunistUtopianMarxists...SCUM for short...it FITS!)
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To: Army Air Corps

This is well over a month old. theaviationist.com has better photos of the mid-air confrontation.

We have several Russian aircraft in storage, including MIG-29s, MIG-21s and MIG-23s.


22 posted on 01/17/2017 2:26:15 PM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: patro
You can tune a piano, but you can’t tune a fish.

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friend's nose.........

23 posted on 01/17/2017 2:26:48 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Army Air Corps

OMG what about Baby oil ?


24 posted on 01/17/2017 2:26:49 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: PIF

How can anyone tell from this pic what type of planes are being flown? This is important because that is the entire argument of ‘we may be preparing for war’.


25 posted on 01/17/2017 2:26:52 PM PST by HollyB
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To: InsidiousMongo

Yes. For those of us who are aviation enthusiasts, this is a rather humdrum story.


26 posted on 01/17/2017 2:27:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: al baby

You don’t wanna know, man.


27 posted on 01/17/2017 2:28:03 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: patro

And you can tell that is a top quality toupee that the third Stealth’s planes pilot is wearing.


28 posted on 01/17/2017 2:29:33 PM PST by Doctor DNA
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To: PIF

It is meant to get rid of “Buck Fever” of seeing your first MIG (SU) as well as to get a sense of the relative performance of your aircraft vs theirs.


29 posted on 01/17/2017 2:30:45 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: All

Just posted because it looked interesting as these are supposed to be the only photos of an actual training dogfight - at least the only ones I’ve seen.

And yes I know we train against various Red forces - but how many know we train against actual Russian planes (This is supposed to be one of three secretly purchased SU-27Ps) - plus the other interesting aspect is any engagement is supposed to be with F-15s and F-22sn not F-16s - according to one post here.


30 posted on 01/17/2017 2:31:18 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Same Journalist who was sued by JK Rowling’s

https://www.poynter.org/2014/daily-mail-removes-story-after-j-k-rowling-sues-for-libel/237883/


31 posted on 01/17/2017 2:31:51 PM PST by HollyB
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To: PIF

Oh good grief. I was Red Flag and Green Flag in the 80’s.

I operated a ZSU-23-4. RUSSIAN AAA tank.

We operated against everything known.

This may come as a surprise to the new snowflakes of the world but military operations do take place in Nevada.


32 posted on 01/17/2017 2:32:51 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: HollyB

Well, there is a flying thingamabob that is obviously spewing chemtrails while being chased by a Theta Recticulan Star Cruiser. It is clear as day.


33 posted on 01/17/2017 2:33:03 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: PIF
There are four known Su-27s in the United States. Two owned by the USAF, and two by the private aggressor company Pride Aircraft.

The USAF aircraft were delivered to the United States from Belarus in 1995, for heaven's sake.

Sheesh.

34 posted on 01/17/2017 2:33:53 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Opfor training. Happens all the time.

Yes, but what they don't tell you is who the pilot was.

Say it! SAY IT!!!

35 posted on 01/17/2017 2:35:39 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: PIF
"...in what could be a sign that America is preparing for the possibility of war with Moscow ..."

Or practicing for engaging any country that uses Russian military aircraft ...

36 posted on 01/17/2017 2:35:57 PM PST by BlueLancer ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." Winston Churchill)
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To: Proyecto Anonimo

“Seems like FAKE NEWS.”

I’m wondering what is up with the one plane leaving a contrail and the other not. Of course if one was to fake a photo there must be thousands of others out there with two small images of planes that could be labelled “U.S. and Russia dogfight”.

I’m guessing different exhaust moisture levels between the two planes?


37 posted on 01/17/2017 2:36:09 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: PIF

Yep, that’s a Russian jet engine. But the Daily Mail ought to know we’ve been practicing this stuff every day for decades.


38 posted on 01/17/2017 2:36:16 PM PST by katana
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To: Billthedrill

Um...Aliens?

CC


39 posted on 01/17/2017 2:38:24 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Exactly. On Planet Zorbat, straight-and-level is an evasive maneuver.

They can't fool me.

40 posted on 01/17/2017 2:41:53 PM PST by Billthedrill
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