Posted on 11/29/2016 5:32:51 AM PST by spintreebob
Edited on 11/29/2016 5:48:35 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Same here, engineer who moved to IT. I did software testing, documentation and training from a super-user point of view.
I was tasked to meet up with users for software requirements gathering, and when you had different people in the room for a second meeting, the priorities and must-haves could be very different.
Gathering super-users for testing rarely used paths, such as “what do you want it to do here”, was always herding cats.
Sounds like Agile. ;-)
There is no demand for that as long as these companies can bring in indentured labor. First step is ending HB-1 visas, employment permission for HB-1 visa holder’s spouses, the 1-2 years after graduation those on student visas get to work before they have to leave or get a new visa.
“Sounds like you might be due for a raise. A big one. And maybe some more vacation. “
I work for the government. Not a chance. I’ll die two days before my first pension check.
I periodically stop delivering a report just to see if anyone complains. If not, I eliminate the noise.
We actually had an artist design the interface. That was WONDERFUL. It looked good and all the HTML was created by the software. All we had to do was insert the functional code and convert to a GSP(Groovy Server Page). Programmers should never design or do analysis. My only feedback is “I don’t think they want that” but it is never my call.
However, we don’t have a choice. We have to talk to the users. We have been here longer than them and we know their jobs better than all the new people. I wish I had a dime for every time I heard “Teach me how to do this thing that you have never done”.
Verbal vomit.
She’s right, she does not belong in tech.
High RPM, zero torque.
in the 50’s, most programmers were women. It was only logical because it involved typing.
I do something similar. I have Scheduled Tasks creating spreadsheets that get placed on a NAS. They run every day. When someone wants to see a given report, it is always there.
For instance, if you want to see which userids have access to which systems, it gets generated every day and is on “the server”.
I'm 49 and programmed in Cobol for about 20 years (though I also did a lot of C programming too).
Now I use things like C# and Powershell and SQL. All in all... I preferred Cobol and C. I could do anything with that combination.
Sounds like Agile. ;-) >>>
Our new management started us on that (confluence/Jira). It might work OK if those in charge had spent time as IT professionals. Now I can spend 2 hours documenting a small project that only took 45 minutes to implement :<( Not to mention we already have run books in place and a change management system that contain the same information. So it’s double work outside of the project itself.
I don’t have a clue as to why I read that dissembling drivel but, I made it to the end.
Well put; I’ve worked with and for some very sharp women, but they were older than this demographic (they’ve be at least 75 now). They had no sense of entitlement, and understood that advancement came through added value - and that came through current skill sets. I suspect young women (and men) today probably get the same message now; they may be pampered, but they understand an employer has no use for dead wood.
I don’t know what the ratio is today, but I doubt they are the majority; what changed that?
I’ve consulted or been an employee at 17 companies. Every single one in the last 15 years that used Agile actually did a “waterfall/agile” hybrid.
i.e. they didn’t do agile, but it looked a lot like agile, only not as effective. :-)
Good question. But in the places I worked, women have been heavily represented in IT since the early 80’s. The money drove a lot of men into the field. It still does although I see a lot of people falling out of IT. My neighbor is surfing his mother’s couch after getting a Masters in Programming. He just couldn’t hack it.
You have to love coding to do it. If you don’t, it will eat you alive. You have to get excited about learning new things because they are coming whether you like it or not.
The best thing about Jira is that it is better than TeamDynamix at project stuff. But TD is better for upper management keeping track of hours so.....
“You start writing the code. I’ll go find out what they want.”
If any of you programmers are proficient in VAX/VMS/DECForms/COBOL drop me a private email as I may have some work for you.
“You have to love coding to do it. If you don’t, it will eat you alive.”
This is why I was a good programmer. I’m organized to a fault.
Yes, I’m one of those women who has NO time for panpering nails/hair. No need/want for makeup....but my house gets vacuumed every 2 days. My silverware sit upright in a straight line as do my dishes and such in the cabinets. I HATE streaks on my windows, ARGH!!! I wash the screens....
On my desk? I keep my computer, a day timer, and a pencil. I need nothing else whatsoever. So, keep it simple stupid is the best best BEST method....plus keep it clean and tidy :)
Ok, back to work I must go. A slow day and I’m loving this posting on FR. Not often someone like me who works from home gets to chat with other IT folks outside of work.
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