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The 8 minute video is a gripping reenactment of the shootout where FBI agents, wielding mainly revolvers, were outgunned by the bad guys who were more heavily armed
Bottom Line:
What came out of the shooting was the FBI abandoning the revolver because of its difficulty to reload under fire, and with it both the .38+P load and the 9mm for the agency. The Bureau first went to the 10mm but found agents were having trouble qualifying with it so the .40 S & W was conceived which has now proved to be popular due to its performance. The Miami Shootout has become a bitter training lesson that has resounded through the law enforcement community. The tragic events of April 11, 1986 in Miami have led to better guns and better training, but at the cost of two good agents.
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I believe it was the New Orleans shootout with Mark Essex in 1973 that caused the first SWAT team to be formed. That was with local police.
Then in 1997, there was the Hollywood shootout in which the police had to borrow rifles from a local gun store as the perps had full auto machineguns and body armor.
In all three cases for some reason the law enforcement agencies thought a handgun was plenty. It wasn’t.
However, as I remember the story, it was the shotgun that saved the day.
Really good movie:
Shootout scene:
In the Line of Duty: The F.B.I. Murders (1988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dUCT-qO3c
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Ayoob wrote a long detailed analysis of the shootout.
The real reason for the disaster was the two guys just would not quit even after suffering life ending wounds. He also pointed out that the 9mms had actually performed well and one had torn the aorta from one of the gunmen.
Yet everytime someone asks what would be a good pistol to have, wheel gun defenders come out in droves to recommend one. Never mind the fact that no law enforcement agency or military branch uses a revolver anymore. As Bill Engvall would say...Here’s your sign.
The book, “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross gives a pretty detailed reenactment of this shootout.
Thanks for the thread, it’s a nice change as we wait for the formality of a Trump win to occur.
Oh, and the YouTube links are great, I’ve got them marked and I’m looking forward to watching them later.
Good men would be utterly ashamed of what the FBI has become.
All this talk of pistols and “will it work” make me glad I carry my SBR 5.45 in my car.
The bad guys that day were not your average street thug, criminals.
One of the FBI agents was very near sighted and lost his glasses. If I remember correctly the FBI did not have their shotguns and ammo secured within their vehicles but just sitting on the seat, so they had to scramble around and look for their stuff after the car chase was over.
This is just a detail, but I hope they mean "five pellets of 00 buck" hit Platt in both feet but he stayed on his feet.
Looks like Soul’s character scumbag Platt is firing bursts with the Mini 14, but it was semi-auto.