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The Clinton's have used skewed polls before. It looks as though they begin to use them again. College polls have historically been so far off as to be a joke. Why Real Clear Politics would even include them should be no surprise. I think the website is meant to lend legitimacy to polls, which over many elections have been proven time and time again to be completely inaccurate. Clinton lost 19% of his support in just a few days before the election? No. It was all "astroturf" politics. Lets all remember that pollsters aren't doing this because they love calling people, they do it for the $$$$$$. A few millions of quid pro quo coming over from Soros or Clinton Campaign/Foundation under the table can probably change some numbers in a very satisfying way for them. Its all about the money.

Please tell your family, your friends, your co-workers, everyone: Polls are useless, just vote, because the polling booth is the only poll that counts!

1 posted on 10/18/2016 8:27:32 PM PDT by 1-Eagle
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To: 1-Eagle

Most of the polls are nothing more than psychological operations. They are put out to play with your mind.


2 posted on 10/18/2016 8:29:40 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: 1-Eagle

But, but, but Romney lost in 2012!


3 posted on 10/18/2016 8:31:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 1-Eagle

The nationwide polls take polling data from individual counties in swing states and probable red/blue states and extrapolate those results to give an accurate forecast of who will win what electoral votes.

They don’t just call 10k people randomly around the country and ask “Who are you voting for?” Then say the country is voting this way or that way. That’s not how polling works.


4 posted on 10/18/2016 8:32:57 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: 1-Eagle

I’m of the opinion that the fog of war will settle over the national scene as we approach election day, with such a withering barrage of BS flying from every direction that no one will know for sure what’s going on.

There will be countless polls, most bogus, a few real. There will be countless wild accusations, a new one ever hour or even every few minutes.

There will be all kinds of rumors too, about wars, and internet outages, and campaign dirty tricks, violence and planned violence, murders, you name it.

The thing to do is vote. Turn off the M$M and just vote.


5 posted on 10/18/2016 8:38:34 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: 1-Eagle

http://youtu.be/hWib8GbrIlA


15 posted on 10/18/2016 8:55:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 1-Eagle
Election polls ALWAYS ‘tighten up’ the last few weeks of the campaign. Given the difference between the two candidates is well withing the margin of error AND how polling have oversampled dems, I would say the advantage goes to the challenger, Trump.

For the jackasses in the media that are all saying that it is over, is both stupid and ridiculous.

16 posted on 10/18/2016 8:59:39 PM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: 1-Eagle
Only 2 of approximately 15 pollsters even finished within the fictional accuracy statistic called the "margin of error". This, alone, should show everyone that the "margin of error" is a fiction of the pollsters imagination. A propaganda tool to say "this poll is accurate within 4%" when no such thing is true.

There's nothing fictional about "margin of error". It's a real metric, based on the sample size and the total population.

But, in order for it to be correct, the sample has to be representative of the total population, and drawn randomly from the population. This is where polls fall short.

First, you don't even know what comprises the total population. Only about 6 out of 10 eligible voters actually vote, and you have to choose your sample from the voting population, excluding the non-voters.

Second: even if you could identify the voting population, it's difficult to sample them. Most refuse to participate. And, you have no way to determine if a participant is telling you the truth.

Third: our elections are easily manipulated. There is some dispute about how bad the problem is, but it's definitely more than zero. Over the years, there have been elections that were definitely stolen, but no one wants to admit that we missed some that couldn't be conclusively proven.

Your conclusion is basically correct: the polls shouldn't be believed. The pollsters pretend they are applying some kind of statistical methodology, but it's all snake oil.

If they get it right, it's a lucky accident.

17 posted on 10/18/2016 8:59:43 PM PDT by justlurking
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To: 1-Eagle

The most trustable polls are the internal polls. However I do not think Trump is conducting internal polls is he?


20 posted on 10/18/2016 9:07:00 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: 1-Eagle

To Hell with Big Media.

To Hell with the Polls.

Get out and vote for Trump/Pence ... get your friends, neighbors and families do so as well.


24 posted on 10/18/2016 9:12:15 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: scheming, robotic liar.)
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To: 1-Eagle

Personally, I trust the “Margin of Error” for most polls to be more like plus or minus 30%.


29 posted on 10/18/2016 9:33:57 PM PDT by ssaftler (2016 Election: If the establishment wins, America loses.)
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To: 1-Eagle
Consider what it was like for Dole/Kemp with slanted polls like these suppressing any hope of victory all summer:


30 posted on 10/18/2016 9:39:42 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (B.Franklin: "A Republic...if you can keep it." Let us all resolve to be Keepers!)
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To: 1-Eagle; All

Not to worry.

I haven’t trusted polls since the 1980s when I worked in the ‘industry’ and quit in disgust at how crooked it is.

I learned from my bosses a hundred ways to make a poll give the results that the client wants to hear, but only an expert looking at the entire poll design, including the tone of voice used by the poll takers on every question asked would be able to tell whether it is an honest poll.


37 posted on 10/18/2016 11:57:56 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: 1-Eagle

Notice who actually owns the polling companies. Sundance has been breaking them down and finding they’re owned by pro Hillary dem operatives.

That puts the very foundation into question.


38 posted on 10/19/2016 12:20:27 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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