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'Greatest living poet' Bob Dylan wins Nobel literature prize
CNBC ^ | October 13, 2016 | Reuters

Posted on 10/13/2016 12:16:57 PM PDT by Hostage

Bob Dylan, regarded as the voice of a generation for his influential songs from the 1960s onwards, has won the Nobel Prize for Literature in a surprise decision that made him the only singer-songwriter to win the award.

The 75-year-old Dylan — who won the prize for "having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition" — now finds himself in the company of Winston Churchill, Thomas Mann and Rudyard Kipling as Nobel laureates.

The announcement was met with gasps in Stockholm's stately Royal Academy hall, followed — unusually — by some laughter.

Dylan's songs, such as "Blowin' in the Wind," "The Times They Are a-Changin'," "Subterranean Homesick Blues," and "Like a Rolling Stone" captured a spirit of rebellion, dissent and independence.

More than 50 years on, Dylan is still writing songs and is often on tour, performing his dense poetic lyrics, sung in a sometimes rasping voice that has been ridiculed by detractors.

Some lyrics have resonated for decades.

"Blowin' in the Wind," written in 1962, was considered one of the most eloquent folk songs of all time. "The Times They Are A-Changin'," in which Dylan told Americans "your sons and your daughters are beyond your command," was an anthem of the civil rights movement and Vietnam War protests.

Awarding the 8 million Swedish crown ($930,000) prize, the Swedish Academy said: "Dylan has the status of an icon. His influence on contemporary music is profound."

Swedish Academy member Per Wastberg said: "He is probably the greatest living poet."

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Books/Literature; Poetry; Society
KEYWORDS: bobdylan; nobelprize; poetry
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To: miss marmelstein
It almost makes me want to get The New Yorker again

The New Yorker panned "Bringing It All Back Home" and "Highway 61 Revisited" in their March 19, 1966 issue. It's actually quite funny. Some excerpts:

His songs range from fairly simple plaints in a familiar folk vein to diatribes in which musical form -- rudimentary in his work at best -- is forced to yield to his pell-mell exhortations...

Before Dylan's emergence as a popular performer in his own right, his pieces depended for their success on the melodious deliveries of folk singers like Peter, Paul & Mary or Joan Baez. The sudden assault of "Like A Rolling Stone" changed all that... he adopted the rock-'n'-roll apparatus, and in the latter recording a sizable combo (amplified guitars, piano, organ, drums, and bass) helps create a considerable racket...

Dylan's protest songs, not to mention those of his imitators, are much less interesting, both musically and lyrically, than such notable songs of the depression days as can be found in, say, Harold Rome's "Needles and Pins" score. They lack, among other things, the artistic detachment and the attendant humor and grace that distinguished the latter.

41 posted on 10/13/2016 1:32:31 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: YogicCowboy
Bob writes in American vernacular in a way that Irving Berlin and Oscar Hammerstein wrote in the early and mid-20th century. They were not the Romantic poets of a different era using the often heightened language of a Shelley or Coleridge (my favorite). But your class does sound dreary. When I decided years ago to register for NYU as an adult, the catalog for English Lit told me I'd have to study Toni Morrison not 19th century British novelists. I dropped that course pronto!
42 posted on 10/13/2016 1:33:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Hostage
Dylan's politics weren't exactly been what a lot of people think they were -- probably not what the Swedish Academy thinks they were.

For example, when he was the darling of the New Left, he expressed his admiration for Barry Goldwater.

But I don't think he was on a level with the literary greats of the 20th century.

We're not living in the 20th century, though, and he may well turn out to be one of the high points of the era we're in now.

It's striking that this didn't get any play at all on the cable news networks.

They're too preoccupied with the election, of course, but it's a sign of how little the Nobel Prize for literature -- and maybe literature itself -- means today.

43 posted on 10/13/2016 1:33:08 PM PDT by x
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To: MUDDOG

Bob has a great sense of humor but in songs like Blowin’ in the Wind, The Times They Are A-Changin’ and Hattie Carroll, he is corrosive at times. Of course, he was heavily influenced by Woody Guthrie early on. I also think his renditions of these angry songs are the best (except for Hattie Carroll - Collins brings great sensitivity to that one).


44 posted on 10/13/2016 1:37:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Hostage

A college professor once went around the room with “who is your favorite poet”. When he got to me I said “ Bob Dylan.” All he said was “very interesting “ and moved on. :-)


45 posted on 10/13/2016 1:41:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Hostage
Look, Bob Dylan isn't for me, but I get he's a great artist. But the Nobel might as well have given the prize to your dad's fave dorm poster
— John Hodgman (@hodgman) October 13, 2016

This feels like the lamest Nobel win since they gave it to Obama for not being Bush
— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) October 13, 2016

I'm a Dylan fan, but this is an ill conceived nostalgia award wrenched from the rancid prostates of senile, gibbering hippies.
— Irvine Welsh (@IrvineWelsh) October 13, 2016

46 posted on 10/13/2016 1:49:55 PM PDT by x
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To: Fightin Whitey

I’m sure with a little thought you could come up with a large list of authors worldwide who have done vastly better work. It’s just another political Nobel.


47 posted on 10/13/2016 1:50:28 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: miss marmelstein

The New Yorker reviewer definitely missed Bob’s sense of humor.

I put Bob’s 1966 and earlier lyrics right up there with any poet’s, and I like the whole package as well, music and all.


48 posted on 10/13/2016 1:50:37 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I bet your college prof, if he or she is still around, remembered in light of today’s news a certain student who called out Dylan as the favorite poet.

You were very sharp and brave to call Bob out.

Sometimes our literature professors miss the undercurrent of society and what truly moves people. Just like a lot of classically trained musicians missed the Beatles until ‘Eleanor Rigby’, then they could no longer ignore the phenomena of this pop music.

A fairly known anecdote of author Michael Crichton had him in college wanting to be a writer and as he took a literature course the best grade he could ever get was a C-. So he said the hell with and decided to plagiarize a portion of CS Lewis and turn it in. The grade came back C-. That’s when he decided to give up on becoming a writer and went to medical school instead.


49 posted on 10/13/2016 1:50:44 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: All; miss marmelstein

Some of us are confusing fond memories of our youth with excellence. Next it will be Kanye West or Tupac Shakur.


50 posted on 10/13/2016 1:54:01 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Albion Wilde

Ping FYI.


51 posted on 10/13/2016 1:54:16 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: x; lonevoice

Not sure what’s up with you and the italics.

But if those are your sentiments, you are entitled to them.

But you may want to give a read to lonevoice’s insight into Dylan’s genius in post #34 above.


52 posted on 10/13/2016 1:55:16 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: Hostage

Love this song:

I had a job in the great north woods

Working as a cook for a spell

But I never did like it all that much

And one day the axe just fell

So I drifted down to New Orleans

Where I was looking for to be employed

Workin’ for a while on a fishin’ boat

Right outside of Delacroix

But all the while I was alone

The past was close behind

I seen a lot of women

But she never escaped my mind

And I just grew

Tangled up in blue


53 posted on 10/13/2016 1:59:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

That is so cool I’m actually jealous of the reflected glory. My fandom would have overtaken any good sense, and probably rendered me obnoxious. :-)


54 posted on 10/13/2016 2:01:04 PM PDT by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: Hostage

I guess Ray Stevens got passed over because the Nobel committee was afraid some people might be offended by “Ahab the Arab.”


55 posted on 10/13/2016 2:01:11 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Alas Babylon!

One of my favorites of all time. Loved it the first moment I had heard him sing it. And my mother did too!


56 posted on 10/13/2016 2:02:05 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: Hostage
Not my sentiments.

Those are negative tweets from Twitter.

They are a lot funnier than the positive tweets.

Like Teddy Roosevelt's daughter Alice said: "If you can’t say something good about someone, sit right here by me."

57 posted on 10/13/2016 2:08:47 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Lol! I would like to have known Alice!


58 posted on 10/13/2016 2:09:58 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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To: Neidermeyer

Just reading without the rollicking beat is a tad less impactful, but this is American Poetry at its best, methinks.

The festival was over, the boys were all plannin’ for a fall
The cabaret was quiet except for the drillin’ in the wall
The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin’ wheel shut down
Anyone with any sense had already left town
He was standin’ in the doorway lookin’ like the Jack of Hearts

He moved across the mirrored room, “Set it up for everyone,” he said
Then everyone commenced to do what they were doin’ before he turned their heads
Then he walked up to a stranger and he asked him with a grin
“Could you kindly tell me, friend, what time the show begins?”
Then he moved into the corner, face down like the Jack of Hearts

Backstage the girls were playin’ five-card stud by the stairs
Lily had two queens, she was hopin’ for a third to match her pair
Outside the streets were fillin’ up, the window was open wide
A gentle breeze was blowin’, you could feel it from inside
Lily called another bet and drew up the Jack of Hearts

Big Jim was no one’s fool, he owned the town’s only diamond mine
He made his usual entrance lookin’ so dandy and so fine
With his bodyguards and silver cane and every hair in place
He took whatever he wanted to and he laid it all to waste
But his bodyguards and silver cane were no match for the Jack of Hearts

Rosemary combed her hair and took a carriage into town
She slipped in through the side door lookin’ like a queen without a crown
She fluttered her false eyelashes and whispered in his ear
“Sorry, darlin’, that I’m late,” but he didn’t seem to hear
He was starin’ into space over at the Jack of Hearts

“I know I’ve seen that face before,” Big Jim was thinkin’ to himself
“Maybe down in Mexico or a picture up on somebody’s shelf”
But then the crowd began to stamp their feet and the houselights did dim
And in the darkness of the room there was only Jim and him
Starin’ at the butterfly who just drew the Jack of Hearts

Lily was a princess, she was fair-skinned and precious as a child
She did whatever she had to do, she had that certain flash every time she smiled
She’d come away from a broken home, had lots of strange affairs
With men in every walk of life which took her everywhere
But she’d never met anyone quite like the Jack of Hearts

The hangin’ judge came in unnoticed and was being wined and dined
The drillin’ in the wall kept up but no one seemed to pay it any mind
It was known all around that Lily had Jim’s ring
And nothing would ever come between Lily and the king
No, nothin’ ever would except maybe the Jack of Hearts

Rosemary started drinkin’ hard and seein’ her reflection in the knife
She was tired of the attention, tired of playin’ the role of Big Jim’s wife
She had done a lot of bad things, even once tried suicide
Was lookin’ to do just one good deed before she died
She was gazin’ to the future, riding on the Jack of Hearts

Lily washed her face, took her dress off and buried it away
“Has your luck run out?” she laughed at him, “Well, I guess you must
have known it would someday
Be careful not to touch the wall, there’s a brand-new coat of paint
I’m glad to see you’re still alive, you’re lookin’ like a saint”
Down the hallway footsteps were comin’ for the Jack of Hearts

The backstage manager was pacing all around by his chair
“There’s something funny going on,” he said, “I can just feel it in the air”
He went to get the hangin’ judge, but the hangin’ judge was drunk
As the leading actor hurried by in the costume of a monk
There was no actor anywhere better than the Jack of Hearts

Lily’s arms were locked around the man that she dearly loved to touch
She forgot all about the man she couldn’t stand who hounded her so much
“I’ve missed you so,” she said to him, and he felt she was sincere
But just beyond the door he felt jealousy and fear
Just another night in the life of the Jack of Hearts

No one knew the circumstance but they say that it happened pretty quick
The door to the dressing room burst open and a cold revolver clicked
And Big Jim was standin’ there, ya couldn’t say surprised
Rosemary right beside him, steady in her eyes
She was with Big Jim but she was leanin’ to the Jack of Hearts

Two doors down the boys finally made it through the wall
And cleaned out the bank safe, it’s said that they got off with quite a haul
In the darkness by the riverbed they waited on the ground
For one more member who had business back in town
But they couldn’t go no further without the Jack of Hearts

The next day was hangin’ day, the sky was overcast and black
Big Jim lay covered up, killed by a penknife in the back
And Rosemary on the gallows, she didn’t even blink
The hangin’ judge was sober, he hadn’t had a drink
The only person on the scene missin’ was the Jack of Hearts

The cabaret was empty now, a sign said, “Closed for repair”
Lily had already taken all of the dye out of her hair
She was thinkin’ ’bout her father, who she very rarely saw
Thinkin’ ’bout Rosemary and thinkin’ about the law
But most of all she was thinkin’ ’bout the Jack of Hearts


59 posted on 10/13/2016 2:10:13 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Really? Who’s your friend? Bob Metzger?
Awesome musicians, all of them.
I’ve seen Cohen live many times; even went to some of the fan-organized Events held every 2 years where the musicians show up and play minus Cohen Himself.
Have seen Dylan live many times also.


60 posted on 10/13/2016 2:14:15 PM PDT by mumblypeg (We've had a p***y in the White House for 8 years. Make America Macho Again.)
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