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Human species 'may split in two'
BBC ^ | Oct 17, 2006

Posted on 09/28/2016 11:02:58 AM PDT by Ray76

Humanity may split into two sub-species in 100,000 years' time as predicted by HG Wells, an expert has said.

Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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To: sparklite2

That is a possibility


41 posted on 09/28/2016 11:31:36 AM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: SES1066

The “in breeding” during Victorian times to keep wealth and supposed “superior genes” within the family resulted in genetic flaws. Hemophelia was one of the most drastic, but there were others like really strange personalities, lazy eyes, etc., from all those double recessives. You need a mongrel or two in the mix to keep things normal.


42 posted on 09/28/2016 11:31:45 AM PDT by kiltie65
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To: Ray76
In his essay In The Beginning Was The Command Line SF author Neal Stephenson makes a fair case for the Morlocks being the good guys. They were, after all, the ones who toiled underground so that the Eloi could enjoy a life of leisure. Yeah, there was that little cannibalism thing but nobody's perfect...
43 posted on 09/28/2016 11:33:25 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ray76

What a terrible article. There’s no real logical structure to it, so it’s difficult to work out where exactly the change described in the headline is supposed to take place. As near as I can figure:

Over the next two millennia: humanity as a whole gets taller, more attractive, and more uniform.

Over the next 7000 years after that, humanity peaks, and begins to overspecialize, with peoples’ jawlines receding due to a dependence on a heavily-preprocessed diet, weaker immune systems due to a reliance on external technology, probably less physical capability, and overall less ability to interact socially.

This section does smack of Lamarckism, but for example if weaker jawlines become the standard for attractiveness, it could become a self-fulfilling inheritable characteristic i.e. it’s not an adaptation, but those who have *more* receded jaws naturally become more desirable, and thus the characteristic spreads. Even if food were to suddenly become more raw again, and jaws were developed to their genetic potentials, the average would still be smaller than the prior period of heavy jaws.

The immune system claim is harder to explain, but perhaps would not be genetic, but rather a pervasive situation where no one ever develops a robust immune system simply because no one is ever given the chance. Presumably this would recover if germ pressure were increased again, since a few thousand years is hardly enough to render something so fundamental to the body’s operation as vestigial.

Over the following 80,000 years (now ~90,000 years in), humanity starts to bifurcate as the right half of the bell curve (in all respects) self-segregates and continues to breed for attractiveness, intelligence, and health, while the left half is left to itself, and is pushed further left on the curve as a result of limited breeding choices.

The end result in 100,000 years’ time is two distinct forms of humanity, one which is sickly, unintelligent, and brutish, though probably more physically capable due to the inability to leverage technology as well and thus have to expend more physical effort; and one which is more recognizably human, intelligent and healthy, though presumably still possessing some after-effects of the reliance on technology i.e. more slender body structure, more delicate facial features,


44 posted on 09/28/2016 11:34:12 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: jetson

Well the Eloi were the ones who stayed on the surface and fought to survive. The Morlocks retreated. Although later they started eating the Eloi in exchange for giving them a comfortable life. That’s what socialism does. It infects and corrupts everything.


45 posted on 09/28/2016 11:41:21 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain
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To: jetson

HG Wells was a HUGE Socialist.

His Time Machine novel’s futuristic scene was an allegory featuring Morlocks evolving into monsterous capitalist elite oppresors who ate up docile ignorant common man Eloi.

It’s possible to see parallel developments in our relationship with our 1% *brethren, no?
*Soros, Drahgi, Yellen, Legarde, Paulson, Zuckerberg, Gates, Ellison, Merkel, etc...

RE: “I was never clear as to who represented who in that movie. Were the Morlocks the progressives or the hard working middle class gone bad.”


46 posted on 09/28/2016 11:42:27 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Ray76

Well .. I hate to be a spoil sport .. but here goes. Mars will not provide anything for humans.

The only way a human gets safely off the planet earth is when Jesus returns for his church (meaning those who have chosen HIM as their Savior).

HE IS THE ONLY SAFETY .. !!!!!!


47 posted on 09/28/2016 11:43:48 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Peace through Strength)
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To: Ray76

I’ve been thinking along these lines for a while. We’re already fairly far along that path. I marvel sometimes about how the extreme the divergence had become between how educated affluent people raise their children versus the poor. It’s not unusual for affluent children to enter kindergarten knowing how to read and it’s not unusual for poor children to leave high school illiterate, and those trends are accelerating. Then add to that that the affluent and highly educated are increasingly coupling only with other affluent and highly educated people, and the same with the poor. You don’t have to play those two trends out for very long before you really start to see humanity dividing into distinct species with very little intermingling occurring between them.


48 posted on 09/28/2016 11:47:33 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: vikingd00d

>>Chins would recede, as a result of having to chew less on processed food.

And here I thought Lamarkism had been abandoned...

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Yeah but epigenetics is a new and interesting line of research.


49 posted on 09/28/2016 11:49:54 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The true "axis of evil" runs through Brussels, Ankara, Riyadh...and D.C.)
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To: Mjreagan
Lawrence: "You live here?"

Montgomery: "Yes."

Lawrence: "Then maybe you know what a zombie is"

Montgomery: "When a person dies and is buried, its seems there are certain voodoo priests who ... who have the power to bring him back to life."

Carter: "How horrible!"

Montgomery: "It's worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring."

Lawrence: "You mean like Democrats?"


50 posted on 09/28/2016 11:53:03 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (ELITE IMMUNITY: how the puppet masters / puppets continue to function)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Great clip lol


51 posted on 09/28/2016 11:59:39 AM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: mbarker12474
Physical appearance, driven by indicators of health, youth and fertility, will improve, he says, while men will exhibit symmetrical facial features, look athletic, and have squarer jaws, deeper voices and bigger penises.

Soon the rest of the world will get to live as I do, you fellows are in for a treat!

52 posted on 09/28/2016 12:03:14 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Ray76

Sheep and goats. That’ll be the separation.

When will it happen? Only the Father knows.


53 posted on 09/28/2016 12:04:54 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Ray76

I understand the concern that the upper class would make their children smarter, prettier, longer lived, etc, through genetic engineering.
The unaltered lower class isn’t “dimwitted” unless he expects the dysgenic effects of welfare encouraging the less intelligent on welfare to continue long enough and at great enough numbers to actually pull down the average human IQ. And we can solve that in one generation by saying “if you’re on welfare in any form, every female in the household 12-42 gets contraception they can’t undo until off welfare”. That Democrats don’t support this while decrying the lack of resources for the poor is proof they want votes, any votes, no matter the negative results for both the people trapped in dependency or society as a whole.


54 posted on 09/28/2016 12:06:14 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

We’ll be evolving through technology far faster than genetic engineering will have an impact.


55 posted on 09/28/2016 12:07:09 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Cboldt

Whites are already intermarrying at a significant rate.
He should go tell the Chinese and Indians to go marry Africans to “even it all out”.


56 posted on 09/28/2016 12:08:37 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Ray76
If these people read history, I think that they would be surprised that the Morlochs have won all the battles.
57 posted on 09/28/2016 12:10:33 PM PDT by Little Bill (o)
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To: Ray76

Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics


Huh?


58 posted on 09/28/2016 12:10:40 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Ray76

Sorry to be non PC. But it split a LONG time ago.


59 posted on 09/28/2016 12:16:01 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: Ray76

It already has - liberals/progressives and human beings.


60 posted on 09/28/2016 12:40:24 PM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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