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Argument against Confederate monuments is hard to apply to Andrew Jackson statue
http://www.nola.com ^ | 9/24/16 | Jarvis DeBerry, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

Posted on 09/24/2016 12:22:44 PM PDT by BBell

In 2004, when the comedian Dave Chappelle performed at UNO Lakefront Arena, he asked a white guy sitting in the audience to imagine that he and Chappelle could take a time machine back to colonial Virginia. He asked him to imagine them stepping out onto a road just as George Washington was approaching. "You might say, 'Look, Dave, there's George Washington, the father of our country. Let's go say hi.' And I'd say, "Run! It's George Washington!'"

There might not be a better explanation for why some black Americans look askance at white Americans' heroes. How much should it matter to a black man that George Washington beat the British and was the nation's first president when he also owned black people as property?

How much should it matter to black New Orleanians that Andrew Jackson protected New Orleans from a British invasion when Jackson also helped wipe out Native populations to create more area for the expansion of slavery? How much should it matter to Native populations that white New Orleans has built a statue to show its gratitude for a man nicknamed "Indian Killer?"

Take Em Down NOLA is forcing consideration of those questions with its announced plan to march to Jackson Square Saturday (Sept. 24) with ropes in hand. Despite Take Em Down NOLA's vow to pull the Jackson statue down, I can't imagine that they believe they can accomplish such a plan after announcing it.

Even though the New Orleans City Council approved Mayor Mitch Landrieu's proposal to remove four other monuments celebrating white supremacists, the city isn't just going to stand idly by as Take Em Down NOLA commits sabotage. The group must know that. So what's the goal here?

I can only speculate, but I think it's clear that by labeling the Andrew Jackson statue

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Jarvis DeBerry is a local liberal,pot stirring columnist but if you read the whole article you will find that he is against removing the Andrew Jackson statue. He thinks it is taking the movement to remove these statues a step too far.
1 posted on 09/24/2016 12:22:44 PM PDT by BBell
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Lots of comments on this article.


2 posted on 09/24/2016 12:25:11 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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Maybe they could make a statue of noted hero Ray Nagin out of chocolate and display that.....


3 posted on 09/24/2016 12:28:28 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Maybe they could make a statue of noted hero Ray Nagin out of chocolate and display that.....

And they could put the statue in a jail cell.

4 posted on 09/24/2016 12:30:58 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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With Jackson’s history, I can understand why they feel the way they do, but where do you draw the line?

Enough of this nonsense...


5 posted on 09/24/2016 12:34:51 PM PDT by Popman
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To: BBell

Who erases history?

Soviet Union
Communist China
Taliban

To name a few, nice company.


6 posted on 09/24/2016 12:35:30 PM PDT by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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"It's George Washington, run."

Total BS!

Black slaves were valuable property, unlike the Irish slaves.

Potato Lives Matter!!!!!!!

7 posted on 09/24/2016 12:36:44 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed,)
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Did they get the Confederate statues down? I heard the companies had so many threats, they would not take the jobs.


8 posted on 09/24/2016 12:37:29 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: joshua c

“Who erases history?”

American “educators”


9 posted on 09/24/2016 12:39:56 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: BBell

How long will it take until they notice that right near by there is a cathedral named for St. Louis, the Islamophobe?


10 posted on 09/24/2016 12:42:56 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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There were plenty of free blacks who owned slaves...

And there were white Irish slaves.


11 posted on 09/24/2016 12:42:59 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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White people did own slaves here at a time when slavery was a universal condition. VEry few places around the globe from our continent, around and back. did not have such an thing. In time, it was seen as the evel it was and, in many countries slavery was abolished.
In this country it did take a cruel civil war, but slavery was truly ended. Elsewhere it still exists, with people still owned as property and millions of others held in a life that is slavery with a different spelling.
Slavery ended here eight generations ago, 151 years.
I see 2 kinds of people in this country as regards the history of slavery. There are those who know full well the history of slavery, but living as free citizens of the greatest country in history, are enjoying the blessings of citizenship HERE and now.
I see others in this country who regard slavery as something that ended last Monday, and seemed determined to cling to the bitterness that centers their lives. It must be sad to have such an attitude as the only driving force within one. Makes for a hell of a life.


12 posted on 09/24/2016 12:45:25 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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Maybe they could make a statue of noted hero Ray Nagin .............................. yeah, standing on a school bus roof that is under water?


13 posted on 09/24/2016 12:53:01 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016? BAD CHOICE! Deplorable are We? Wait til Nov 8th!)
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Maybe they could make a statue of noted hero Ray Nagin ....eah, standing on a school bus roof that is under water?


...eating chocolate.


14 posted on 09/24/2016 12:55:27 PM PDT by chasio649 (Donald Trump is not the president we need, he is the president SJWs deserve)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Most owners took out life insurance polices on their young slaves.


15 posted on 09/24/2016 12:55:55 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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It’s not too late to save New York’s own Lenin monument


Lenin went down in an operation reminiscent of scenes in Eastern Europe, lowered by a crane and loaded on a truck bed.

It might be put elsewhere on display in New York, but I don’t know more than that,” Rosen wrote me.

“It would be good to have the statue on display in the Lower East Side, where it has been for 20 plus years and has a certain symbolism, I believe, of the history of the neighborhood.”



16 posted on 09/24/2016 12:56:43 PM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: chasio649

...in an orange jumpsuit.

5.56mm


17 posted on 09/24/2016 12:56:46 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

The Civil Ware wasn’t about slavery as Lincoln said so himself many many times.


18 posted on 09/24/2016 12:58:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BBell

I found an 1840 political token of Andrew Jackson in my backyard. I am sure it was dropped there brand new because 1840 happens to be the same year my house was moved to where it is. It is in great condition. On one side is Jackson emerging from a treasure chest with a bag of gold. The obverse has beautiful rendition of a “jackass”. Upon minor research it apparently depicts the first usage of the democrat donkey. Its message evidently has to do with him raiding the National Treasury. My question is, should I report this to my local gestapo? ..........should I donate to the new American African American Amercan Museum? ........?


19 posted on 09/24/2016 12:59:37 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: central_va

Silverware, historically, was polished by the Irish.


20 posted on 09/24/2016 1:01:35 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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