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(Vanity)(Hillary's Jet) Any executive pilots on FR ?
Self | 9/23/16 | Celerity

Posted on 09/22/2016 10:27:14 PM PDT by Celerity

Ever since Loretta Lynch met Bill Clinton at the end of June this year, I've been really bothered by something. Compelled to meditate on it and figure it out.

I'm having some trouble, and need to ask for Freerepublic input.

Loretta Lynch met Bill Clinton on the tarmac, and Bill entered Loretta's FBI-owned Government plane. There are reports of them entering a 3rd plane but nothing seems to support that claim.

Now that we're all caught up, I'll let you know that I've been wracking my brain on this one. But one of the more sublime enigmas came more recently. After Hillary's September 11th .. Death, I guess. I mean the woman looked like she died. She was talking to the press aboard another jet.

I'm reminded of Hillary's photos aboard "Dan Bilzerian's private jet". More about that in a moment.

The September 12th jet was a piece of junk. Seriously. It was a retired passenger jet. And not even a recently retired one. Where did this jet come from ? How did she go from Bilzerian's jet, to this boneyard candidate while Slick Willy is cruising around a private jet.. like.. Private jet ... on his own ATC and traffic terms ?

I've been going movie-style insane on this. So much so that I've been looking at jets. I've been watching videos of them. Learning everything I could. I learned a bit about buying a jet, and owning a jet.

A Jet is stupid expensive. When I say "Stupid expensive" a private jet is one of those things that can never, ever solve a problem efficiently. Buying a jet for your own use is outlandishly foolish. The costs - even outside of the cost of crew - are staggering. A private jet is a blackhole of money for the foolish rich.

But I learned that when you buy a jet, you can offset costs by loaning it out, or leasing it out to millionaire clubs that share jets. It ensures that a jet is available to you, albeit perhaps not your jet. That is how Hillary wound up in "Bilzerian's" jet. He can't afford this thing hanging out hemorrhaging money so he makes it available to be flown and rented out - basically.

Even Trump does the same thing. His 737 has been flown around the country to help people not because people have a direct line to his office, and he doesn't personally dispatch that jet to far off lands to help struggling parents get their sick kids from coast to coast. I'm sure he would if he could, but that's not how those transactions go down. You don't get to call him up, and he doesn't just send his 737 (with costs running in the $25k+ per hour) out willy nilly. I mean, again - I'm sure he would were he asked to but his plane was simply available for that service - at that time. Trump doesn't hemorrhage money.

Why is Hillary on this really, really old passenger jet now ? Was she kicked out of their private jet club ? Did she have to buy another jet ? Is her jet under observation ? Is it bugged ? The Clinton foundation either has enough for a fleet of it's own plane, or it can't afford the 20 million necessary to pick up a Gulfstream.

Executive pilots - What say you ? Did Bill do something that got the Clintons kicked out of the executive airplane club ?


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aviation; bhodoj; clinton; cultureofcorruption; executive; hillary2016; jet; pilot; x42
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1 posted on 09/22/2016 10:27:14 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

You can rent jets.


2 posted on 09/22/2016 10:31:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Celerity

Next thing I’m working on - Why is the Heinz mansion on the Trump Mansion property ? The Trumps and Heinz’s relationship.

I can’t figure that stuff out. Obviously some strange stuff going on - Trump bought the Bedford mansion in 1996 hardly making it “Ancestral” but the Heinz mansion is on the property. The Drumpf and Heinz familys were close in Kallstadt, and I know that all of these people are related in one way or the other (Bushes, Rodhams, Kerrys, etc) but how in the world is this relationship mapped out ? Anyway. That’s another day and I’m not going to look into anything against Trump.

President Trump is the ONLY way that these United States of America survive. Period. I’m sure that Donald does NOT like Theresa and John (They are weaklings and such pathetic human beings that even their money can’t get them friends. True shitheels.)

And Ivanka isn’t friends with Chelsea. No one is friends with Chelsea. She’s wholly unlikeable and a pariah around Manhattan. Ivanka has been a-list since she was 8.


3 posted on 09/22/2016 10:33:09 PM PDT by Celerity
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1. It may be that Hillary wanted a plane that resembled the shape of Air Force One during the 70’s.

2. This airplane is being funded by the DNC.

3. It is a rental.


4 posted on 09/22/2016 10:33:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: A CA Guy

Renting jets - that’s what I’m saying. They are renting jets. But you don’t just call a number and rent a jet. It’s not easy and their jet behavior has shown a few key points:

They were part of the Executive Jet fleet service that Dan Bilzerian either rents from, or contributes to

Bill can hang out on the Tarmac and purposely change his flight plan. The pilot must be HIS pilot. The jet should be his too. Otherwise it’s just awkward and unusual. Telling Phoenix ATC that you want to hang out a bit to say hi to a friend isn’t something that normally happens.


5 posted on 09/22/2016 10:36:40 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

It’s pretty easy to rent jets. She has money and connections, so no issue.

Michael Jackson rented jets like limos all the time.


6 posted on 09/22/2016 10:38:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Celerity

AFAIK Trump has a 757.


7 posted on 09/22/2016 10:39:03 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Until he is ready to taxi, ATC doesn’t really care what a pilot/aircraft does when parked.
When ready to leave, the pilot requests a clearance for a filed flight plan, taxis, takes off.
Flight plans just expire after an hour or two if no clearance is requested.
If plans change, he just files another flight plan.


8 posted on 09/22/2016 10:48:47 PM PDT by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: A CA Guy

It can be that way, or depending on the owner of the aircraft they could do it for free, buy fuel or donate to their charity or foundation. I flew around various people who did all of the above.

Most people would be surprised how frequently high powered current and former government types fly in corporate jets.


9 posted on 09/22/2016 10:50:31 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

My theory is lynch set up the meeting to tell what hillary should say by


10 posted on 09/22/2016 10:55:50 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Celerity
Telling Phoenix ATC that you want to hang out a bit to say hi to a friend isn’t something that normally happens. Why not? was probably parked on the south side of the airport where an FBO is located (as well as Swift Aviation, which provides the type of executive service to which you are referring). U.S. ATC is not like Europe... you do not have a departure slot that you lose by not showing up on time (except at LaGuardia I think). You file a flight plan and (assuming there are no issues with the flight plan) contact the tower when you are ready to depart... that is done AFTER the pre-flight checks, after fueling up, after the pax are on board and after the door closes. You do not contact the tower until you are ready for a taxi clearance to toward the runway.
11 posted on 09/22/2016 11:02:13 PM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: Celerity

I saw Trumps plane parked in June as I was driving out of Newark airport. I thought it odd it was there and not at a NYC airport.

I also was in another airport this year for a longggg layover and saw the National Guard hanger across from one terminal. I later awoke to two foreign speaking guys snapping pictures of the hanger with telephoto lens. I found and told a guy dressed in police or security clothes and he laughed at me for thinking it suspicious.

As far as Hillary’s plane, i hadn’t noticed, but with the attitude she projects most of the time, I would think she would only want the best possible at all times.

this article seems to explain why “Heinz mansion is on Trump property”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2014/07/17/inside-seven-springs-the-lavish-mansion-where-the-trumps-spent-summers/#5cf00d1c5d67


12 posted on 09/22/2016 11:10:20 PM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

At most U.S. airports, you can move, taxi, or just sit in an aircraft all you want, as long as you don’t cross the zipper line.


13 posted on 09/22/2016 11:11:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Celerity
"A Jet is stupid expensive. When I say "Stupid expensive" a private jet is one of those things that can never, ever solve a problem efficiently. Buying a jet for your own use is outlandishly foolish. The costs - even outside of the cost of crew - are staggering. A private jet is a blackhole of money for the foolish rich. "

Back in the 80s I knew a fellow who claimed he could predict the failure of entrepreneurs within a few months.

He did this (with frightening accuracy) by simply calculating 18 months from the time they bought a corporate jet.

14 posted on 09/22/2016 11:13:09 PM PDT by shibumi (Dancin in the Dark with Tramps in the Park, I'm the Fleetfoot VooDoo Man)
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To: Celerity

I’ve rented private jets 5-6 times in my life

It’s not 25,000 an hour for personal jets

2000-10,000

Indeed it’s an indulgence

I had access to lease at cost a Lear 45 for qualifying hours or to position the bird

Not much more than first class for 6 of us plus accommodation for pilots

But somewhere like Aspen or Naples FL a Lear 45 is the entry level of private jets......tiny......like a Fiat


15 posted on 09/22/2016 11:26:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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To: Celerity

SkyDancer’s a professional pilot.


16 posted on 09/23/2016 12:57:19 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Celerity

The party or candidate rent them for 90 days or so.

She just got the big jet a couple of weeks ago.

November 9th she is back to hoofing it.


17 posted on 09/23/2016 2:25:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: shibumi

Didn’t Glenn Beck buy a plane?


18 posted on 09/23/2016 2:37:15 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I am so deplorable I stink.)
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To: Celerity

I believe Trump has a 757. Indeed, a jet that does not produce is a money killer. I am sure Hillary knows plenty of people who would let her use their private jet for speeches. All the jet setters greeting Obama at his inauguration was nauseating.

The Clinton Foundation has connections too. I think the Clintons are completely stupid logistically. Their money is from glorified school called government , and they destroy Air Force budgets but yet only want to fly exclusive Air Force to look cool and be comfy.

Go figure.


19 posted on 09/23/2016 2:46:53 AM PDT by lavaroise (s)
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Well, May 2016 - November 2016, Trump’s bigger airplane IS permittinghim to get to 3-6 campaign events every day, with all the staff and crew - and a better-rested candidate! - in one place at different cities quickly. It’s one reason trump has been more effective at actualy campaigning than Hillary. Plus a few photo-op “Trump sends his plane” stories as well.

Hillary probably figured, correctly, that she needed a “plane” too. But bought/rented/was given/borrowed a cheaper run-down plane to allow those fawning press photo’s we all saw.

Three days of “Hillary Meets With Press Three Days in a Row!” were the result, and my niece bought the show hook, line, and sinker. While being able to ignore the previous 295 days as Hillary refused any press conference, any press contact outside of one-on-one scheduled TV interviews.


20 posted on 09/23/2016 4:11:45 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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