Posted on 09/21/2016 9:10:14 AM PDT by Morgana
A day after police in Oklahoma released video that shows a white Tulsa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed black man, attorneys representing the slain man’s family released photos that they said contradict a key claim in authorities’ version of events.
At a news conference Tuesday afternoon, Benjamin Crump — a civil rights lawyer who has represented many families of those killed in high-profile police shootings — said Terence Crutcher never reached his hands into the driver’s side window of his stalled sport-utility vehicle before he was shot by police.
Crutcher couldn’t have reached into the vehicle, Crump said, because enhanced photos of the vehicle taken from police video show that the window was rolled up.
If confirmed by police, the admission would eliminate one of the chief justifications for police using deadly force against Crutcher.
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If allowing authority to step on liberty is conservative, then you can have it.
Is it comfortable in your armchair? Let’s wait for the trial before we declare them guilty.
This is the dirty little secret about all of these “cops shoot black guy” videos. There is the one side everybody talks about:
Did the cops just racially profile a guy and gun him down? Different cases go different ways.
But there is another side nobody is talking about and it’s KILLING how blacks are perceived in our culture: The now deceased person was practically asking for it. They were acting in a way you and I, and all the other CIVILIZED people watching it would NEVER act when pulled over.
i.e these videos, one by one, are becoming an ever expanding indictment of blacks in our culture as much as they are an indictment of cops. More so, actually.
note: This does not include the rare case where the black motorist was complying with police as any responsible person would. But there are very few of those because, well, they were complying. Duh.
It looks from that angle that the police couldn’t see if his window was up or not. The guy was not obeying the police, when he went to that window, the next conclusion was, he was grabbing a gun. I would rather a person not obeying the police be killed than an innocent officer, because they waited to long to act.
One report I read said that they did taze him. The article went on to speculate that the officer who fired the lethal round might have fired because the taser was fired. Sort of like he fired...so I had better fire too.
It would be interesting to know how much experience the officer who fired the lethal round has. Because if that article is correct (And it well might NOT be), it sounds like a mistake made by a nervous rookie.
He gets a big settlement almost every time. I’d call that a win.
Doesn't seem to be such a high number for a country with a population of 324 million and 13% black.
There were almost 6,000 blacks killed by other blacks in 2015.
But don't police have a responsibility to ensure that Crutcher represented a threat to their safety or the safety of others before they shot him? Isn't that the threshold for using deadly force? Where was the threat?
Good point, jackpot justice.
Where were the cops at any risk in this case?
We have all seen the video
Wow, he must have been a dangerous dude if, unarmed, he could have killed 4 armed cops. /s
How about linking me to a camera angle that showed what happened (not a helicopter shot of a tree or the hind quarters of 4 cops blocking the view) and the audio of the instructions that he didn’t obey?
Apparently one officer chose his tazer and the other chose her gun and they fired simultaneously (according to their lawyer).
I look at the available evidence and say it looks unjustifiable. You look at the same and say the guy had it coming to him. Whose armchair is the more comfortable, your's or mine?
The sun sets at 7:22 PM in Tulsa. This event happened at 7:45 PM. It was getting dark and visibility was poor. You can see flashlight beams on the ground. I think the poor visibility may have contributed to what happened. We have the benefit of viewing this through a lens that enhances the lighting.
Yep. Folks "disobey" police instructions for many reasons. Some truly want to harm a cop. Some want to get away. But some are just confused, or high, or drunk, or sleepy, or whatever.
As you noted, being confused, or high, or drunk, or sleepy...none of them are capital offenses.
They were not. Some think he was using PCP, to me he looks to be having a heat stroke. Either way his health is compromised and he can't follow orders so this makes it okay to shoot him like a rabid dog? Just like the retarded man in Florida? You know the one they missed and it the black man who was flowing orders? They can't call an ambulance for this man? Someone needs to fry for this.
Easy to sit at your computer and be judge and jury rather on the street with a guy who may have had a gun hidden to kill you. Who cares what the videos show or don’t show?
This is the fifth time FReepers have jumped the gun only to be proved wrong again. It will be the same here. Even cops get the benefit of Innocence and trial. What a thankless job.
How did yesterday’s Charlotte murder turn out???? Nobody seems to be talking about it.
Not if they are Kripo; only obey the Gestapo. Or the Okhrana, Cheka, NKVD or Stasi.
The difference being that we pay the police to protect us, not kill us. The Post says that 697 people were shot by police so far this year. I think we can all agree that the percentage of those which were justified because of actions on the part of the deceased is probably in the high 90's. But that still means that two dozen or so were not justified. Shouldn't something happen to the police officer in those cases?
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