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The Smartphone Platform War Is Over
Statista, the Statistics Portal ^ | August 22nd, 2016 | Felix Richter

Posted on 09/05/2016 5:39:45 PM PDT by Shanghai Dan

A picture truly is worth a thousand words:



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: android; ios; smartphone
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To: Vision Thing
As for iPhones, it’s niche. Most of the people I know who own one are shallowbama and in debt up to their iBalls.

Some niche. There are over one BILLION iPhones in use around the world. That's a pretty big niche. As for your other claim, every study of Apple users has found they are far more affluent than are Android users. . . and pay for more things than do Android users and are willing to buy more things on the Internet. The studies show that Apple users generally have better paying jobs and can afford what they buy.

Android users want free stuff.

121 posted on 09/06/2016 1:09:04 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

It’s still the same principle. Keep the cost of your product low and make money to supplement the product.


122 posted on 09/06/2016 1:12:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
It’s still the same principle. Keep the cost of your product low and make money to supplement the product.

No, it's not. Kodak sold film to the people the sold cameras to.

Google sells ads to multiple third parties, not (except incidentally) to the people who they sell/give Android to. Google also sells information to third parties about their other clients. Kodak never did such a thing.

Google wants a backdoor into everyone's private information to get that information. Android provides that door.

123 posted on 09/06/2016 1:19:14 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Shanghai Dan

I keep my phones for longer than four years.
Obviously that requires a replaceable battery, so my requirements rule out a lot of models.


124 posted on 09/06/2016 5:10:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: umgud

Absent the photoshopped dial, that is still the phone I use today. I kid you not. I will be the last American to use a smart phone. I am sure I will love it when I get one but I am among the slowest 1% of the nation to adopt new technology, be it DVR, DVD, CD, smart TV, what have you.

I go kicking and screaming from my old tech, which is illogical since I always end up loving the new tech better.

Strange indeed.


125 posted on 09/06/2016 5:28:20 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: dragnet2

Well, Apple is #3 on this top 10 list of companies that liberals love. Amazon and Google are pretty darn leftist, baby.

1. Amazon
2. Alphabet (Google)
3. Apple
4. Walt Disney
5. Microsoft
6. Target
7. Intel
8. Johnson & Johnson
9. Costco Wholesale
10. CVS Health

http://fortune.com/2016/06/06/fortune-500-companies-loved-by-liberals/


126 posted on 09/06/2016 5:32:16 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: mrsmith

Hmmm, you might want to do a little bit of investigating into what Apple does with regard to comply if with a duly sworn Search Warrant (hint: they fully comply).

In the case to which you refer, the State of California had remote management software, but failed to install it. The Goverment then bungled the phone by attempting to hack it, and when they had reset the password through their incompetence they demanded Apple develop a “hack” that would render ALL iPhones vulnerable to being broken into.

The FBI’s position was “trust us” with the golden key to everyone”s private information. And Apple refused. This is similar to the FBI demanding a key that opens every door, to every home, in the USA, “just in case”. And who knows who will get ahold of this key.

This key would not only open your door, but defeat all security. No one needs this kind of access. Ask Microsoft about their Golden Key for Win10. They “accidentally” released the Golden Key for Bootlock into the wild. Now every Win10 box on the planet is vulnerable.


127 posted on 09/06/2016 5:43:29 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Swordmaker

I tried it, and NOTHING happened. I “owned” that iphone for 24 hours; and I was one unhappy camper. NOTHING I tried, worked. So I took it back to the Verizon store and told them I couldn’t use it. THEY couldn’t change font size, either.


128 posted on 09/06/2016 5:51:01 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Swordmaker

P.S. They took the iphone back and sold me this Galaxy S-4. And it’s not just fonts. I’ve noticed that photos on an iphone are the same. What you see is what you get. You can’t enlarge them like I can on my Galaxy.


129 posted on 09/06/2016 5:58:02 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I had never heard of Symbian either until I read this article.


130 posted on 09/06/2016 6:02:50 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Shanghai Dan
Don’t you love it? One OS that runs on ALL THOSE PLATFORMS

Obviously you are not a Hardware Engineer. Consider for a moment the variety of screen sizes. Now let's mix in the variety of DDR configurations, modems, coprocessors, bus controllers, LTE modems, WiFi Modems and General Purpose Processors, cameras, video codecs, storage memory units - all low price contenders bought in bulk. All running an OS built, designed and sourced by a dis-interested 3rd party.

How efficient do you suppose this is? How secure do you think it is? Anyone, at any time, can write any chunk of code and access any part of your phone and do anything they want. Perhaps that photo editing software is also hacking your bank? Perhaps every personal contact is now being used as an identity theft hack?

Your personal information is now far more personal than ever. Where you walked, what your pulse rate was, how fast you climbed those hills. When you stopped to rest. How long. Perhaps your employer is looking to do a layoff; and you just are not as healthy as he wants. Now he knows your heart rates, your rest pulse rate, how fast you walk etc. he can find your Dr visits from your calendar and your meds from your phone. If you log your blood pressure and glucose, he can get that too.

That doesn't begin to cover your texts, social media, phone calls or email. All that is wide open in Andeoid. Google makes no secret that they monitor this. When a product or service is free; the product is YOU

131 posted on 09/06/2016 6:10:55 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: publius911

Great straw man you created! Good kick too!

Bad argument.


132 posted on 09/06/2016 7:10:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Shanghai Dan; Swordmaker

“Don’t you love it? One OS that runs on ALL THOSE PLATFORMS!”

I’m an app developer (some Android, mostly iOS).
Calling it “one OS” is irritating, because there are significant differences between each major version of that OS, differences that make it difficult to write apps that support more than 1-2 versions. People see new OS features, and expect those capabilities be supported in our app, but if they’re not running that latest version then we either have to write those capabilities ourselves for prior OS versions or tell users “TS, upgrade already”. Android suffers severe platform fragmentation, with _lots_ of people running old OS versions, and surprisingly few running the latest version (can’t or won’t upgrade) - Android may “run on all those platforms”, but our apps can only run on a smallish subset thereof, ticking off a very large segment of Android users. (And that’s not addressing all the hardware variations that the software may have a tough time either knowing about or keeping up with.) iOS on the other hand, has a small & highly-predictable hardware base, and _huge_ adoption of the latest OS version (usually >90% within a few weeks, IIRC) - this makes it easy for us developers to deliver new features fast & reliably.

Now, you might understandably express disinterest in developers’ problems. Well, there’s only so much we can do to get the app & updates out the door, and supporting increasingly aged & obsolete/fringe platforms is a matter of diminishing returns (more work for less payoff). And on top of special-case support among for “all those platforms” for “one OS” (overlooking dozens of versions & forks), working under the hood is just plain less pleasant for Android than iOS. You may like the idea of “one OS to rule them all”, but making it happen may or may not be worth it.

More: “all those platforms” don’t pay nearly as much. Android may be on an overwhelming number of platforms, but we have way more (3:1 at least) actual _users_ on iOS. As the food on my table is paid for mostly by iOS users, they’re going to get the priority development - so those on a few platforms are going to get better apps sooner than “all those platforms”.

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Seems a good point for a tangent Swordmaker & a few others might appreciate:
The iOS toolset (OS library calls, IDE, etc) seems robustly built to implement given features.
The Android toolset seems very much a “me too” follow-up, trying to implement those same features BUT (important part here!) is trying to do it differently just to do it differently.
This is significant to a developer because there is a natural way which some processes flow, which iOS seems to follow ... but Android is trying to reverse those processes just so it doesn’t end up too much like iOS, making it harder & counter-intuitive to develop apps.
Example: if you want to put a marker on a map...
- with iOS, you have the map own the marker (map contains a list of markers)
- with Android, you have the marker own the map (marker contains a list of maps)
This may seem a pointless distinction to most users, but to developers is the difference between a natural vs counter-intuitive flow of information & handling.

So far, I have yet to find a developer who actually prefers Android over iOS.


133 posted on 09/06/2016 7:59:44 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Daffynition

I remember doing similar with an original IBM PC for some early “computer art”. Had to turn off all the lights, and position a long-lens camera down the hallway to minimize screen curvature artifacts. Printing “screenshots” looked nothing like what was actually on the screen.


134 posted on 09/06/2016 8:01:42 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Hodar; mrsmith

“This is similar to the FBI demanding a key that opens every door, to every home, in the USA, “just in case”. And who knows who will get ahold of this key.”

TSA requires all luggage be unlocked. One of the few exceptions is if the luggage uses a lock which has a physical “back door” key so they can open it “just in case”. One day, WIRED magazine talked a TSA agent into allowing a photograph of the dozen master keys. Hours after publication, duplicate keys were available on eBay.

You _DON’T_ allow master/backdoor keys. If you don’t personally know who has the other key(s), consider the lock wide open.


135 posted on 09/06/2016 8:08:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Well, half that “top ten companies liberals love” list control an enormous swath of the computer industry - you’re going to have an awful time trying to get a computer that doesn’t use Intel circuits, doesn’t run Windows/macOS/iOS/Android, and doesn’t use Amazon’s AWS for cloud & remote processing/storage. You can do it, yes, but you’re going to be severely outside the general modern computing infrastructure.


136 posted on 09/06/2016 8:16:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Jonty30

“Google makes a ton of cash on its apps. ... Give the OS away, but make up for it through the sale of apps.”

That’s not a “ton of cash”. There are very few non-free Android apps sold at meaningful quantities. Google’s cut is nothing to sneeze at, certainly, but is nowhere near the enormous revenue it gets from other sources. Apple has made a whole lot more from apps than Google, but even that’s in the low $billions, paltry relative to its’ usual revenue. Both companies facilitate creation & sales of apps not so much to make $$$ from the apps, but to give customers a reason to stay within the ecosystem (so Google can gather more info to mine for targeted advertising, and so Apple can sell more hardware).


137 posted on 09/06/2016 8:27:49 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
What does that mean? Am I supposed to pick which leftist freedom hating company to give money too? Give to the better of two evils? Not happening.

Look, I withhold as much as possible from government fraud. They only understand $$/power. That's it. If they want to loot me, I can assure you I can play that game back by keeping my $$ from companies who fund and support their globalist anti freedom policies.

Globalist/leftist companies like Apple have absolutely zero allegiance to the USA. So I simply treat them as they do us. See, simple!

138 posted on 09/06/2016 9:34:18 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hodar; ctdonath2

Didn’t refer to any case at all. Perhaps you meant this reply for someone else?
If I had it would be that of Francis Rawls who has been locked up for almost a year because he claims to have forgotten his password.

CHEAP AND EASY encryption indeed leads to the problem that unlocking one device means unlocking all devices.
Individualized encryption requires more effort and expense by the manufacturer- and more cost to the consumer. But maintains the Fourth Amendment and, given a large enough production, is affordable.


139 posted on 09/06/2016 10:03:13 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: dragnet2

See #136.


140 posted on 09/06/2016 10:26:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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