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Russia: Muslim cleric says “all women should be circumcised”
https://www.jihadwatch.org ^ | 08/18/2016 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/18/2016 1:48:32 PM PDT by heterosupremacist

Two prominent religious leaders in Russia have provoked outrage after suggesting female genital mutilation could help reduce sexual promiscuity.

The scandal erupted on Wednesday when Vsevolod Chaplin, a former spokesman for the Russian Orthodox Church, rushed to the defence of Ismail Berdiyev, a senior Muslim cleric from Dagestan who said “all women” should be subjected to the practice to eliminate sexual depravity.

Mr Berdiyev, chairman of the Coordination Centre of North Caucasus Muslims, made the controversial comments when asked to comment on a report into the practice published earlier this week.

“All women should be circumcised so there would be no debauchery on earth, so that sexuality is minimized,” Mr Berdiyev, a prominent figure in Dagestan, told a correspondent from Interfax, a Russian news agency.

“The Almighty created woman to bear and raise children,” he added. “[Circumcision] would not affect that. Women would not stop giving birth. But there would be less promiscuity.”

He went on to clarify that although Islam does not prescribe the practice, “it is necessary to reduce female sexuality. If it was done to all women, it would be very good.”

Research by the Russian Justice Initiative, an NGO, found that in areas where the practice continues female genital mutilation tends to be carried out on girls up to three years old, without anaesthetic and often in unsanitary conditions.

The researchers said most cases they came across involved removal, or part-removal, of the clitoris and labia.

Archpriest Chaplin, one of the most prominent Orthodox priests in Russia, rushed to the mufti’s defence after outraged headlines splashed across Russian media and social networks.

“What feminist howling!” he wrote in a Facebook post defending the right of minorities to preserve religious traditions.

“Circumcising all women probably isn’t necessary. Orthodox women don’t need it because they are not promiscuous,”

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FGM is widely reputed to be a “cultural” practice, but actually it is sanctioned by Islamic law: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

The Christian cleric, Vsevolod Chaplin, ought to know better. His remarks in his own defense were appalling. Why must female sexuality be reduced and not male? Female genital mutilation is a means of controlling women, dehumanizing them and reducing them to the level of mere drones. Hardly Christian values, one would think.

1 posted on 08/18/2016 1:48:32 PM PDT by heterosupremacist
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“Of course God created women to bear and raise children. Feminism is a lie of the 20th century,” he added.

Mr Berdiyev himself later said he had been misquoted…


2 posted on 08/18/2016 1:49:26 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson))
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Yet no notarized people are connecting islam with the democrat party like they should be doing.

islam, blm and other democrat favorites need dots connected.


3 posted on 08/18/2016 1:51:27 PM PDT by soycd
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If feminists were sincere about anything at all they’d be out hunting these guys down.


4 posted on 08/18/2016 1:56:01 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Waiting to hear from NOW.....................

Waiting.........

Waiting....

Waiting..

*crickets*


5 posted on 08/18/2016 1:58:55 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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Can you imagine if white Christian men said such an abhorrent thing? The feminists would be hunting them down and probably trying to get them thrown in prison for having this opinion.


6 posted on 08/18/2016 2:01:08 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Buckeye McFrog

that is a fact.


7 posted on 08/18/2016 2:01:24 PM PDT by ColdOne (poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~We need our weaves, I don't use them,but we need them.)
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To: heterosupremacist

No wonder these women look so dour.


8 posted on 08/18/2016 2:06:01 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: heterosupremacist

Raise your hand if you are glad your wife was not mutilated.


9 posted on 08/18/2016 2:07:41 PM PDT by lurk (T)
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And would not stop depravity.

They need to rein in the men.


10 posted on 08/18/2016 2:08:56 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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The dumb leftist b!tches in this country——”Keep your hands of my body” “We have a right to kill our babies”

Yet they'll pull the lever for the party who's in bed with the muslim brotherhood that wants to cut off their genitalia.

11 posted on 08/18/2016 2:09:37 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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“Two prominent religious leaders in Russia have provoked outrage after suggesting female genital mutilation could help reduce sexual promiscuity.”


In a related story, several dozen men between the ages of 16 and 60 beat the snot out of two prominent religious leaders in Russia.


12 posted on 08/18/2016 2:16:05 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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It is not part of the Koran, right? ....just a law?


13 posted on 08/18/2016 2:19:56 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: heterosupremacist

Where are the national association of gals?

5.56mm


14 posted on 08/18/2016 2:22:32 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Re : Post #12

“In a related story, several dozen men between the ages of 16 and 60 beat the snot out of two prominent religious leaders in Russia.” Ha! Excellent...

:^)


15 posted on 08/18/2016 2:23:18 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson))
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He may be hunted down by Russian women, therefore, no prison time will be involved..


16 posted on 08/18/2016 2:34:59 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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He is the one that needs to be circumcised, starting at his head and working the way down to his feet. Another wacko Muzzie has surfaced.


17 posted on 08/18/2016 2:52:42 PM PDT by DaveA37 (t)
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e4.3 Circumcision is obligatory (0: for both men and women. For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce (Ar. bazr) of the clitoris (n: remark by the translator: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert).(A: comment by Sheikh 'Abd al-Wakil Durubi: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.)

The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law 'Umdat al-Salik by Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 769/1368) in Arabic with Facing English Text, Commentary, and Appendices Edited and Translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller Amana Publications Beltsville, Maryland U.S.A

18 posted on 08/18/2016 3:09:02 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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FGM is widely reputed to be a “cultural” practice, but actually it is sanctioned by Islamic law:

It's both. What Sharia does is codify tribal practices that existed in the middle-east for thousands of years. If you want to live like ancient tribesmen, Islam is for you.

19 posted on 08/18/2016 3:17:59 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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I would then think an equal number of castrations would also inhibit sexual promiscuity. The Muslim men seem to have the aggressive sexual problem.


20 posted on 08/18/2016 3:34:01 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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