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To: HarleyLady27

I think we make a big mistake by looking at these rallies as an indicator. Not all polls are wrong. Trump has to step up his game. But at this point, I do think most everyone has made up their mind. If conservatives sit it out, like they usually do, then we only have ourselves to blame. If she does win by a landslide...America is already over.


24 posted on 08/06/2016 10:14:33 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

This is the same country that elected Obama twice......and the demographics haven’t gotten any better.


29 posted on 08/06/2016 10:16:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Hildy

http://investmentwatchblog.com/trump-drops-bombshell-about-voter-fraud-then-videos-prove-hes-right/


32 posted on 08/06/2016 10:16:49 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence; Trump/Pence 100%)
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To: Hildy
I think we make a big mistake by looking at these rallies as an indicator.

President Ron Paul agrees. He always had a lot of people show up at his rallies.

Not all polls are wrong. Trump has to step up his game. But at this point, I do think most everyone has made up their mind.

Agree, agree and agree. At this point, it's all about getting out the vote.

I wish I could be optimistic but I can't. Hillary has the support of her party, big money donors and a complacent media. Trump has none of this. Additionally, the Democrats have changing demographics in their favor. Every year there's more of them and fewer of us.

My prediction: Hillary wins in a landslide and takes back at least the Senate. She then goes to work very quickly.

57 posted on 08/06/2016 10:29:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Hildy

I think we make a big mistake by looking at these rallies as an indicator.


I agree with you to an extent. I don’t see enthusiasm for Hillary at either her rallies, on the backs of cars, in yards, or in general. However, I don’t think that will make much difference on election day. The rats have a built in advantage of guaranteed voters and it’s been very effective for them. In fact, one can almost say they have taken old school Tammany Hall politics and used that plan throughout large cities in the U.S.

This is a very unique election, but I fear too many are putting too much confidence in the novelty of our candidate. Trump has a persona and message that may well gain him votes that polls won’t capture - even from traditional democrats. He also has a persona that may lose him votes in ways that polls won’t capture among the squishy middle and traditional republicrats.

Based on the swing state focus at this point by both campaigns they believe it is going to be close and they view this as a traditional election. If that is the case - the advantage is hers - warts and all. Trump is going to have to perform well for the duration.

Every election we hear about the apathetic who don’t vote that would likely agree with us. While I believe they do exist, I won’t believe it until I see it with my own eyes. Trump got a whole bunch of primary votes and clearly there was great enthusiasm for him, but was it enough to overcome the Tammany Hall machine she has in her pocket and the lying media?


93 posted on 08/06/2016 10:49:29 AM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Hildy

You are most correct! Rallies have absolutely nothing to do with indicators of voter turnout or wishes. I keep hearing the same bird singing around here (bs! Polls are fake! Rigged!) yet an overwhelming majority are saying the same thing. I seem to recall the same bird being sung with Romney and McLame and we said the same things then as well.

It’s truly time to smack ourselves in the face and wake up to reality, we may very well be very far behind.


107 posted on 08/06/2016 10:59:05 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Hildy
I think we make a big mistake by looking at these rallies as an indicator. Not all polls are wrong. Trump has to step up his game. But at this point, I do think most everyone has made up their mind.

Wrong on all counts. Please stop hand-wringing!

I think we make a big mistake by looking at these rallies as an indicator.

Rallies are yuuuuge indicator of enthusiasm, and enthusiasm decides elections. Trump's rally turnouts are impressive, and a thing to be hold, and they portend very well for election day.

Not all polls are wrong.

Not all polls are wrong, but they are also not intended to be right. They're intended to manipulate public perception, and they seem to be doing a very good job on you.

Trump has to step up his game.

Trump's "game" is very stepped up already, and he will have boundless opportunities to hammer Hillary on all sorts of issues, from policy, to character, to integrity, to speaking fees, and on and on.

Trump does need to avoid unforced errors, but every politician is going to make those from time to time. Hillary is actually much worse at gaffes, which is why she's totally hiding. She's not going to win an election by hiding behind the skirts of her adoring Media.

But at this point, I do think most everyone has made up their mind.

Again, no! History shows the opposite: many voters don't start paying attention until after labor day, and many make up their mind in the few weeks leading up to the election. The rapid snap bakc that we've seen with Trump in the last couple of days proves that everyone has not made up their mind!

If conservatives sit it out, like they usually do, then we only have ourselves to blame.

Conservatives do not typically sit out elections. Indeed, they typically turnout at a higher rate than most other ideological demographics.

If [Hillary] does win by a landslide...America is already over.

That's true. But Hillary will not win at all, much less by a landslide.

Really, Hildy, you're placing far too much faith in the overall Media narrative. Please stop with the inaccurate and near-hysterical doom and gloom.

Vote Trump!

179 posted on 08/06/2016 1:35:17 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Hildy

Yes, the polls are generally accurate taken as a group as a snapshot in time. Clinton got a convention bounce, Trump had a bad week in the media. However there are 3 months to campaign and if Trump can win recalcitrant Republicans he can win a close election.


183 posted on 08/06/2016 2:06:13 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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