Posted on 07/22/2016 12:13:55 PM PDT by Scutter
At Build 2016, Microsoft introduced to the world the Windows Subsystem for Linux (Beta) [WSL], which enables developers to run native Ubuntu user-mode console binaries through the Bash shell in Windows 10. If you’re in the Windows Insider program, you’ve had the opportunity to try out this feature using the latest Windows Anniversary Update Insider Builds.
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Any self respecting soul would run Windows 10 in a virtual machine under Linux, where it could be contained for safety purposes.
Nah, too much of my day-to-day work requires Windows.
Bingo. Keep its nutz in a Lockbox...
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...a really nice feature for Linux fans that are forced to work on Windows...
Here's one that might make you smile... I know you remember 2003 when Ballmer declared Linux a "cancer"...
I have a Lexmark 4530 printer and can’t find drivers for my Surface Property 3 with W10. Lexmark only goes to W7. Am I SOL? If so what is a good printer/scanner/copy easy to set up and will work with my phone also? I don’t print much but when you need it...
Newegg has a real nice refurbed HP all-in-one for $38.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828414562&cm_re=hp_4630-_-28-414-562-_-Product
Runs with Win 10. I got one when I switched from XP to Win 7 to replace a printer I had been using with XP. No Win 7 drivers.
The 4630 is a nice printer. Have used print and scan. Haven’t used fax.
Go to the HP site and get the latest drivers.
Nice printer. Unbeatable price.
Thank you. I’ll check that out.
You’re welcome. No regrets here.
I agree, but Win 7 not 10. Maybe even Win2k if it will run the apps that Wine won’t.
Hi Lurkina -
Is it the x4530? I checked Lexmark’s site, and they do seem to have Vista drivers, which in theory should work. Make sure you download the correct version (64-bit versus 32-bit) to match your Windows installation. If you don’t know, you can find out by right-clicking on the start menu icon, then selecting “System” from the menu, and then in the window that opens see what it says under “System type”.
Thanks. I went to that page and even downloaded the W7 version but did not run it. I didn’t want to mess something up. Should I go ahead and run it and see what happens?
I don’t think the Windows 7 version will work, but you should be able to select one of the two Vista versions (32 or 64 bit).
My hope would be that someday microsoft would realize how insanely primitive their update system is and switch to something more like yum or apt. It is downright painful to update a windows computer compared to just about any linux distro these day
My hope would be that someday microsoft would realize how insanely primitive their update system is and switch to something more like yum or apt. It is downright painful to update a windows computer compared to just about any linux distro these dayI know what you mean. I actually think the package system (MSI) in Windows is pretty good, but there are some limitations of the OS and the user base that restrict what's feasible. For one thing, the surface area of changes that require reboots in Windows is higher than in Linux, even though there was a lot of improvement in this space in Windows 10.
Also, the Windows team is constrained by what I refer to as the "backwards compatibility straight-jacket". They have to carefully review and justify every breaking change, because each one will lead to unhappy customers and potential bad press. Heck, even non-breaking changes irritate some users (you know, those guys who are all still running Windows XP because *shudder* the icons are different in Windows 7).
Also, your average Linux user is just WAY more technically savvy than your average Windows user and can deal with stuff that would quickly overwhelm Microsoft with customer support calls were such a thing pushed out in Windows. For example, when I do an update of one of my Ubuntu systems, I may run into some package that's made a significant change to its config file format, and then I get an option to overwrite the old config or leave what's there in place and write the new config to a different name. Can you imagine how the average Windows user would react to this? Another example of that is with complex package dependencies. Most Windows users just couldn't deal with that, and so Microsoft has avoided going that route.
One area, though, that I think has just been horribly butchered in Windows is the whole device driver thing. There have been SO many breaking updates to that over the years, and I can tell you that even today, it is not a pleasant task to write a device driver. Linux seems to have that pretty well nailed down.
All of this is my opinion, and not necessarily the position of Microsoft.
Oh, I did forget to mention my remarkably low opinion of Win 10. You are absolutely right, of course. Just remember to turn the auto-corrupter off.
Ya, gotta give you that. Linux users tend to be more likely to have an actual idea of how their computers actually work than your average windows user. However, that is no excuse for how utterly broken and primitive the windows update system is. Allow me to give you an example.
About a year or so ago I bought a copy of Win7 pro to run in a VM so I can do itunes for my phone. Really. That's it's primary purpose in life (itunes and phone backups-which you can't do in Linux to the best of my knowledge). So, I installed it in a VM, on what was essentially a bare-metal install. I'm not going to complain about the initial install process as compared to Linux (fedora, mint, or ubuntu), inasmuch as it is much more =needy= than the Linux install is. (my opinion).
OK, so, I the thing was installed, and I fired it up. (The initial user was assigned administrator privs. OMFG) Then I did the initial update. Cool, it went out, said you have BLAH many updates, do you want to do it? Ya, says I, update yourself please. It took a long time for that initial bunch of updates to download (ya, takes forever for the initial update of mint/fedora/whatever). Then it wanted me to reboot. OK. Fine, whatever. Reboot. I logged back in once it was back up. Then it says, "hey bro, you've got a bunch of crap you need to update, want me to do that?" Yeah. Download (again), update, (again), reboot (again), login, (again). Hey dude, you have a bunch of crap you need to update, do you want me to do that? (OK, let's try it again. Download (again, again), update (again, again), reboot, (again, again), login (again, again). After a few minutes, it says, once bloody again, you have some stuff you need to update. Want me to do that?
This process repeated at least four times. Possibly five. Can you possibly defend that?
Here's what I had to do when I installed Linux Mint in a VM. Install, answer some questions. Reboot. Login. (to a user that was NOT an administrator) After a little while, it tells me I have updates. I download, install then continue on with my work. I rebooted the VM that night just because I'm paranoid after a major update like that, and want to make sure I can still boot, but it wasn't required.
THIS is why I say the windows update process is fundamentally broken and archaic.
BTW, I noticed this all-in-one is on sale for $19
http://slickdeals.net/f/8951043-canon-pixma-mg2520-inkjet-all-in-one-printer-19-free-shipping
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