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TWA 800: Here is what we now know
WND ^ | Jul 13, 2016 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/13/2016 7:11:01 PM PDT by Ray76

Twenty years ago this Sunday, TWA Flight 800, a 747 bound for Paris, exploded off the coast of Long Island, killing all 230 people on board.

In the last few years, researchers have unearthed an astonishing treasure trove of CIA documents, secured a confirmed video of a Long Island missile launch five days before TWA 800’s demise, and persuaded numerous witnesses and whistleblowers from inside the investigation to come forward. Here is what we now know.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: foilwatch; nyc; twa800; twaflight800
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To: Ray76

I don’t know what exactly happened, but is it not reasonable to rule out our own military? Presumably if it was done by our military, it would have to be a naval surface to air platform, a launch recorded by many different sources,video, electronic, inventory, not to mention the ship would have to be a general quarters. That too would be logged in various media.

How could you possibly get everyone to not talk about this, even if at first the only personnel that would have known would be the missile tracking folks, radar operators and such.


21 posted on 07/13/2016 7:54:42 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Swordmaker

PING!


22 posted on 07/13/2016 7:56:06 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician, any politician, just say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: FewsOrange; Ray76
Who are you going to believe, scientists and engineers who investigated the explosion or conspiracy loons on the internet?

Well.... let's see.

The FBI investigated the TWA800 Crash and said it was not a terrorist attack, it was an explosion caused by a wire in the Center Wing Tank.

This is the same FBI that investigated Hillary Clinton and said they could find no intent to commit a criminal act, even though it is obvious all heck she committed multiple crimes including treason.

The same FBI that said they interviewed Hillary (in one of the largest and probably most important cases in recent history) and didn't even bother to record it.

If they were right about TWA800, are you saying they are right about Hillary , and you trust them in what they are telling us ?

23 posted on 07/13/2016 7:57:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: FewsOrange
Who are you going to believe, scientists and engineers who investigated the explosion or conspiracy loons on the internet?

The 'conspiracy loons on the Internet' are the scientists and engineers who investigated the explosion.

24 posted on 07/13/2016 7:59:55 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Ray76

It was climate change.


25 posted on 07/13/2016 8:01:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: VerySadAmerican
Was this the first time the FBI officially lied for the Clintons?

I doubt the FBI was unaware of Clinton's shenanigans while Bill was Governor of Arkansas. They could have used that knowledge to keep him from running for President. They did not.

26 posted on 07/13/2016 8:02:12 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Tupelo; marktwain
"You did it Stanley. Center Wing Tank. They bought it."


27 posted on 07/13/2016 8:10:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Also the same FBI that a week later told us Richard Jewell the hero was the mad bomber in the Olympic park.


28 posted on 07/13/2016 8:20:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: FewsOrange

“Who are you going to believe, scientists and engineers who investigated the explosion or conspiracy loons on the internet?”

I would like to believe the experienced professionals of the NTSB, a couple of whom I know personally.

Unfortunately, FOR THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME IN NTSB HISTORY, they were sent back to Washington and not allowed to be involved in the investigation.

That is the smoking gun that can NEVER be extinguished.


29 posted on 07/13/2016 8:21:41 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Ray76
Here's the bullet point from the article that tells me all I need to know:

"The deputy attorney general who successfully oversaw the investigation, Jamie Gorelick, left the DOJ in 1997 to take a job with Fannie Mae. She would make more than $25 million over the next six years."

The feds are liars. Always have been. Always will be.

The feds. Gorelick. SPIT.

30 posted on 07/13/2016 8:29:12 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: VerySadAmerican

Not in the least. Waco was in 1993, and the FBI lied about the non-use of pyrotechnic tear-gas rounds. Not only did they lie that they didn’t use them when they did, they also lied that they found evidence of “illegal silencers” in the Davidian dwelling, which were actually the ‘ferret’ pyrotechnic tear-gas rounds that they lied about not using. The FBI has apparently been dirty for decades. Maybe since they were founded.

Note that they kept up the lie for six years, and that the article is dated 1999.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/aug99/davidians26.htm


31 posted on 07/13/2016 8:29:47 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Yes, the FBI covered up a lot at WACO. I followed that case closely. It was a seminal one in showing how much we are lied to by the old media and the power elite.


32 posted on 07/13/2016 8:37:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: DesertRhino

And the same FBI that came up with the ‘single bullet theory’ for JFK’s assassination.


33 posted on 07/13/2016 9:28:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Ray76

Oh, please. Anyone with half a bloody brain knew from the beginning that despite the suppression of evidence at the time it was blatantly obvious that it was downed due to a missile strike.

Even here on FR we could see the coverup underway, and the blatant suppression of evidence and dismissal of witness testimony that was occurring on a daily basis.

And now, with the astounding refusal of the FBI to recommend charges against mrs bill we see that this once-hallowed agency is in fact merely another pawn to be moved about as the powers-that-be see fit.

So who really is surprised that this agency bowed to political pressure back then and allowed the lie to be paraded as fact instead of presenting the truth as they are sworn to do?

Where are the mass resignations from the agents who swore to uphold the law now that it is proven that the Agency lied? I do not recall seeing any news story about it back then concerning any resignations, or even recently.

An agency of Truth, Law, and Justice... -what a bloody farce!

Disgusting.


34 posted on 07/13/2016 10:55:30 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: marktwain

Indeed. I even posted about what I witnessed during the Waco debacle recently.

However, it has been pointed out that a website labeled vikingkitties dot blogspot dot com seems to dismiss what I recall as fanciful meanderings!

Excuse. Me.

I watched it as it occurred,

I know what I saw.

Why the Vikingkitties wish to disparage that I do not understand.


35 posted on 07/13/2016 10:59:04 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: Ray76

It was shot down, likely from a boat and with a shoulder-fired missile.


36 posted on 07/13/2016 11:37:35 PM PDT by Mjreagan
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To: Mjreagan
It was shot down, likely from a boat and with a shoulder-fired missile.

It likely wasn't a "shoulder-fired missile" -- for two reasons:

1. The maximum altitude for a shoulder-fired missile is 13,000 ft. TW800 was at 14,500 ft when it began to disintegrate.

2. The explosive charge in a shoulder-fired missile is insufficient to cause the destruction of a plane the size of a Boeing 747.

A boat launch is likely. But it would need to be something a little more substantial -- and more lethal -- than a Stinger.

37 posted on 07/14/2016 12:05:33 AM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01

Also MPAD’s have infrared homers...would have gone for one of the 4 engines instead of “center of mass”. Radar guided missile would go for center of mass. Large navy ship needed for radar guided.


38 posted on 07/14/2016 12:42:21 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago
IR homing might seek Air Pack Exhaust Vents under center tank.


39 posted on 07/14/2016 12:52:46 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Onambla: Marxist-Muslim crack-smoking closet queen Exp 1-20-17)
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To: PhilDragoo

Still have max. range problem, and engines have a much larger IR signature. Also, ManPADS have a pretty small warhead, unlikely to cause immediate disintegration.

Money quote from this article: “To learn more, please check out my new book, “TWA 800: The Crash, The Cover Up, The Conspiracy.”

Follow the $$.

Meanwhile the NTSB report is free in .PDF format here:
http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/AAR0003.aspx
I always recommend starting by reading that...I see a lot of misinformation on FR TWA-800 threads...things like “there are no wires in a a 747 center fuel tank”.


40 posted on 07/14/2016 1:12:58 AM PDT by Drago
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