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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD JULY 8, 2016
freerepublic | July 8, 2016 | greeneyes

Posted on 07/08/2016 1:32:57 PM PDT by greeneyes

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To: MomwithHope

I love the red peppers too. Nearly always leave a bunch of the cal wonders on the plant to turn red. We have grown several different types, but I can’t recall exactly.

I have an Italian, Jimmy Nardello? which I haven’t planted yet, and really need to get a few started, so that I have one or two to dig up and bring in the house for the winter garden. I’m not sure how many Hubby planted, and not sure which kind.


21 posted on 07/08/2016 5:51:02 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

We have Geranium maculatum growing here and it is certainly immune to Japanese beetles but there are no piles of seduced and slaughtered JBs underneath - no diminishment of the eating pooping mating orgies going on in my hollyhocks, or in the raspberry leaves being turned into lace.

Why is there no predator that eats JBs? The birds don’t touch them, and I once spent ten minutes teasing a praying mantis into taking one - it finally speared it, tasted it, and shook it frantically off its claw - ick! ick!

When I captured them in water and crushed them, the ants ate for a few days, and then refused furthre offerings.

I have always read traps only attract more, but tomorrow I will give traps a go.


22 posted on 07/08/2016 6:05:40 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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We had 9.36″ of rain for the month of May, beating the old record from 1889 of 9.13″. In June, we had 7.81 inches of rain & to date in July, we've had 1.11 inches. This week, we got a heat wave so things are drying out a little bit. The garden is an explosion of green .... tomatoes going everywhere (despite cages), the biggest eggplant plants - didn't know they got that big, and huge squash plants. So far, everything is producing, with the exception of the pepper plants ... my SIL has complained her pepper plants aren't doing well this year, either. I do have some pimiento & hot banana peppers. The rest appear to be blooming, but no peppers.

There have been two "attacks" on the garden. Last week, I thought the deer were nipping off the ends of my Sun Sugar that were getting beyond the wire it is growing on. I was putting up plastic netting when I noticed what looked like some kind of "poop". That got me to looking closer & I found 3 huge green tomato hornworms muching on that poor plant. I checked the rest of the tomatoes & found another one on my Mr. Stripey. Those 4 hornworms had not been parasitized by wasps (that I could tell) so they ended up squished. The Sun Sugar tomato looks really happy since the 3 hornworms were taken off - I'm getting pretty orange cherry tomatoes every day now.

The next "attack" is still ongoing. The crows, about a week ago, started scouting out the garden. Since the tomatoes were still very green, I figured I had some time. Last year, the crows were pecking out the pulp of ripe tomatoes. Monday, I saw crows land on a board fence very near the garden & got a funny feeling that the ones I wasn't seeing (there are 7) were up to no good. When I went out the door to shoo them off, 3 flew out of the raised beds. One had my biggest, prettiest green Roma in its beak. I found a pecked up zucchini & a pecked up Black Beauty eggplant. No one else was around at the time - if they had been, they'd probably have seen steam coming out of my ears & blue smoke from the (ahem) not-so-nice things I was saying about those crows.

I won't go into the details, but last year I had to put up plastic mesh/metal post fencing that, although it kept the crows out, hindered me in getting to the garden as well - it was a total pain & made mowing around the beds a miserable task. I have taken some pieces of plastic netting and draped them over the tomato plants for now, but I'm working on a fence idea that will be made in panels of plastic mesh/pvc that I can easily move to mow & also set up in different configurations. I could also use them for trellises when not being used as fencing. I am going to try making the fencing for one raised bed this weekend and see how it goes - if it works, I'll for sure do the 2nd bed & maybe even a third.

In the meanwhile, I made a "dead crow" dummy (I didn't feel like spending $69 to buy one) & hung it near the garden. I don't think the crows are fooled, but they haven't been coming as frequently since I've had it up ... they usually arrive by 8 a.m. & maybe come back 2-3 times in the morning, then show up again between 3-4. I haven't seen them in the afternoons at all and I only had to shoo them off twice this morning. The collective noun for a group of crows is a "murder" of crows .... apt name because they can really murder plants/gardens, grape vines, etc. Always something going on in the garden!

23 posted on 07/08/2016 6:10:37 PM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: greeneyes

5-6 nice Amish paste tomatoes every day are harvested from our raised bed vines. No sign of wilt or rust...
Peppers are doing well. We’ll have out 3rd ration of jalapeño poppers this weekend.


24 posted on 07/08/2016 6:17:59 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: heartwood

We did traps one year, and it worked pretty good, thinned the herd at least, and since Hubby took care of the traps, it was great for me. They love my rosa rugose.


25 posted on 07/08/2016 7:05:40 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Qiviut

We have blue jays and cardinals, haven’t seen any Crows, thank goodness. I need to get some new wren boxes, and get them hung up for next year - they like bugs, not berries.


26 posted on 07/08/2016 7:10:09 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
That's great news. Still waiting here on anything that looks like a tomato. So far the only tomatoes have been the little green ones on the potato plants - Hubby said those are poisonous. First time I ever saw them.
27 posted on 07/08/2016 7:12:53 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Amen.


28 posted on 07/08/2016 7:31:05 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Qiviut

I am having trouble with crows this year. There hasn’t been any changes in our yard but never have seen so many. Looked up what to do about crows:
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Crows
It is the same thing said about Wrens from nesting in the eaves of the house and that didn’t work.
Anyone have any suggestions other than shooting them as I live a neighborhood
environment.


29 posted on 07/08/2016 7:34:38 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: MomwithHope

BAD NEWS… My garlic came down with rust this year and severely stunted the crop. I can post photos from years past if you are in a desperate condition???


30 posted on 07/08/2016 7:44:41 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: heartwood

I did traps one year also. I had so many JB, it was so many more than I had ever dealt with. I swore after that, that if I ever used a trap again, I would place it on the edge of my property.


31 posted on 07/08/2016 8:09:32 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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Doc put me on some new BP drugs so I'm a little lethargic today. Here are some random photos for this weeks garden report for the Humboldt Bay region of Comifornia First photo is Cinderella Pumpkin, next is Diva cucumber, then Lady Bender's dwarf Zinnias, then a "wild sweet pea" a perennial that grows wild here and then the sweet corn Revelation …

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32 posted on 07/08/2016 8:11:42 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender

Your garden is beautiful!

I always love your pix.


33 posted on 07/08/2016 8:17:24 PM PDT by Califreak (Madeleine Albright says I'm going to hell. Cruz' dad called me an infidel. Long live the Uniparty!)
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To: greeneyes
A friend is into basket weaving and made this one for us. The top reed passes through a hole drilled in the wooden handle…IMG_7432
34 posted on 07/08/2016 8:32:34 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender

Thanks for the pictures. Lovely looking plants. I think I have an infestation of flea beetles. A couple of plants look like teeny tiny buckshot hit them.

I’m going to try some diatematious earth. Not sure what else. Might have to make some garlic/pepper spray.


35 posted on 07/08/2016 8:34:09 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: tubebender

Very nifty looking basket.


36 posted on 07/08/2016 8:35:26 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

I asked Lady Bender about Flea beetles and she thought for a moment and said she would trade you some black aphids for a few of your beetles. Other then that I would look on line for a organic cure.


37 posted on 07/08/2016 8:45:21 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: mojo114

We had 5 crows last year & now it’s up to 7 ... a family, it appears. Lots of chatter among themselves and interaction - fun to watch if they weren’t getting into trouble. My dad is an old-school farm boy - he has been telling me to shoot one & hang it up & that will take care of the problem. I’m not inclined to do that & even if I were, crows are a federally regulated migratory species so you can only shoot them during certain hunting seasons - “now” is not in season.

I had already seen the article you linked. None of that really helps me so I’m going to fence the crows out. The fencing is close enough they can’t land between the fence/garden & they cannot perch on the fence. They can’t reach the tomatoes & other veggies through the fence.

In searching the internet, I did see where someone live-trapped crows. They were left in the cage for a couple of hours & after that experience, just seeing the cage kept them away. That is an additional option for me - we have a live trap & two years ago, I accidentally caught a young crow in it (baited with corn & cantaloupe for a groundhog). It was very vocal & quite upset & went screaming off looking for family/buddies when I got it released.

I think the easiest thing for you might be the “dead crow” decoy to warn them away and/or maybe trapping them for some ‘aversion therapy’. You could try a fake snake - supposedly that works for a while & it might be enough that they’d stop coming.

Here’s the dead crow link:

http://birdsoff.com.au/dead-crow-decoy-visual-deterrent/

Some people use ‘Halloween’ decorative crows ... cheaper, but probably wouldn’t last long in weather.


38 posted on 07/08/2016 9:37:05 PM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: tubebender

lovely flowers and lovely garden..


39 posted on 07/08/2016 9:54:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: greeneyes

String beans are doing well. One (store bought) eggplant plant has 13 little eggplants. Saw the first bell pepper. Tomatoes are just starting to bloom. Still no pickles, but they are all in flower. Planted red lettuce; still have some butterhead.

Question on fertilizer: is 8-8-8 a general fertilizer for most vegetables? I’ve used it before on tomatoes and they perked up.


40 posted on 07/09/2016 3:50:14 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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