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Wreckage, ‘Black Box’ Data Point to Fire Aboard EgyptAir Flight 804
WSJ ^ | 06/29/2016 | Robert Wall

Posted on 06/29/2016 3:52:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The flight data recorder contains information consistent with fault warnings transmitted by the Airbus Group SE A320 that pointed to smoke in one of the lavatories and the avionics bay, where key electronics are housed, Egyptian crash investigators said.

Wreckage recovered from the plane that crashed on May 19, killing all 66 people aboard, also showed signs of high temperature damage and soot, they said.

The findings are the most concrete evidence yet that a small number of automated messages transmitted by the Airbus A320 pointing to problems on the plane weren’t erroneous. They also are likely intensify the investigation around why smoke or even a fire may have occurred on the plane.

Accident investigators still haven’t determined why the plane, flying from Paris to Cairo, crashed.

Investigators said they are still working to repair the cockpit voice recorder, which was taken to France. French air-accident investigators are aiding the Egyptian-led probe. Once the device is repaired, it will be returned to Cairo for analysis. The cockpit voice recorder could yield information about how pilots reacted to the apparent smoke messages.

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: 804; blackbox; cairo; egypt; egyptair; egyptairflight804; egyptairflight8040; fire; flight804; france; ms804; paris; wreckage
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1 posted on 06/29/2016 3:52:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

According to this report, the flight data recorder was successfully repaired in France:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/crashed-egyptair-flight-data-recorder-successfully-repaired-investigation-080820580—sector.html?nhp=1


2 posted on 06/29/2016 3:54:52 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: BenLurkin

Hmmm - smoke in the lavatory? Sounds like a bomb to me.


3 posted on 06/29/2016 3:55:18 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: rigelkentaurus

Just some hippy torching a fatty. Certainly not muslim terrorists.


4 posted on 06/29/2016 3:56:29 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: BenLurkin

Yah, sure. Spontaneous combustion in some muzzie’s oily shorts!


5 posted on 06/29/2016 3:57:16 PM PDT by miserare ( "What difference does it make?"~~Benghazi Hil)
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To: BenLurkin

I would think the cockpit voice recorder is key here. Would shed light on pilot involvement, or not.. If there was a ‘boom’ sound..


6 posted on 06/29/2016 4:00:39 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Background noises may indeed hold the best clues.


7 posted on 06/29/2016 4:02:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Another Richard Reid wannabe?


8 posted on 06/29/2016 4:04:51 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Perhaps the emergency O2 generators went amuck?


9 posted on 06/29/2016 4:05:46 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: BenLurkin

Circuit boards are epoxied, temp-rated wiring/insulation would melt not burn. There’s nothing in avionics to burn.

In the absence of proof of a suicide bomber blowing himself/herself up in the bathroom, I still think it originated in the septic/holding tank - an explosive that reacted with or wouldn’t be affected by water, (heavy bathroom use before final approach) either placed in the tank beforehand or inserted via the toilet or galley pipes.


10 posted on 06/29/2016 4:12:42 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: BenLurkin

How hard is it to sneak a pack of matches onto an airplane? And then how hard would it be for somebody to grab a stack of paper towels and start a fire in the bathroom knowing that the bathroom is adjacent to where key electronic components are housed?


11 posted on 06/29/2016 4:13:20 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: BenLurkin

Guess they don’t have these new things called smoke detectors over there.


12 posted on 06/29/2016 4:16:00 PM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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To: blueplum

Wiring can indeed burn—see Swissair for one example.


13 posted on 06/29/2016 4:16:30 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: BenLurkin

Flight data recorder would have nothing on it that would indicate smoke in the head

This is nonsense. Particularly since Egypt claimed they got nothing from the black boxes so they were sent to France


14 posted on 06/29/2016 4:16:38 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe someone had a stinger missile in his checked baggage... and it went off.


15 posted on 06/29/2016 4:17:59 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: BenLurkin

That may be but there are NO voices on the flight data recorder


16 posted on 06/29/2016 4:18:16 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Thermite. It would be easy to bring on a plane. A strip of magnesium tape could light it.


17 posted on 06/29/2016 4:20:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: BenLurkin
...smoke in one of the lavatories...

There was smoke in the WTC on 9-11 also, but that was AFTER the towers were hit by planes.

18 posted on 06/29/2016 4:23:49 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: BenLurkin

Smoke in the avionics bay.

That may not be terrorism.


19 posted on 06/29/2016 4:28:18 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: BenLurkin

Yeh a bomb usually causes fire and smoke.


20 posted on 06/29/2016 4:54:20 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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