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You Don’t Have to Be a Criminal for the IRS to Seize Your Bank Account
National Review ^ | 26 May, 2916 | The Editors

Posted on 05/27/2016 8:03:54 PM PDT by MtnClimber

Congress is considering a bill that would prohibit the federal government from punishing people who haven’t committed any crime. This will take some clarification.

Like many other police agencies, the IRS has extensive and easily abused civil-forfeiture powers. The idea behind civil forfeiture is that criminals should not be allowed to profit from their crimes, and that their ill-gotten loot — cash, cars, real estate — should find its way to the public fisc. In practice, that does happen, but forfeiture also provides a sweet stream of lightly overseen revenue for police agencies, hence the temptation to abuse.

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1 posted on 05/27/2016 8:03:54 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Stealing is still stealing even if the government does it.


2 posted on 05/27/2016 8:04:41 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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The bureaucracy, with its own inertia, is completely out of control.


3 posted on 05/27/2016 8:06:16 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: MtnClimber

IRS = American Gestapo


4 posted on 05/27/2016 8:06:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MtnClimber
You can thank the drug warriors for the forfeiture phenomenon. As anything having to do with drugs was automatically Worse Than Hitler™, things like the Bill of Rights were made optional. It was then trivial, once the method was accepted as lawful, to extend this to anything that would give the government an excuse to steal anything it likes. Congrats, drug warriors. Great job.
5 posted on 05/27/2016 8:08:51 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: MtnClimber

They ought to put some teeth into the Clyde-Hirsch-Sowers Respect Act and go after the IRS and its’ employees. Recover the confiscated money and return it to the innocent victims, along with interest and compensation for losses - paid out of the IRS employee’s pensions and paychecks. And reduce the IRS budget annually for a like amount. Don’t treat IRS criminals with kid gloves and a slap on the wrist; take their money and jail some of them.


6 posted on 05/27/2016 8:18:45 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: MtnClimber

At a cocktail party back in the late 80’s, I struck up a conversation with a fellow — his name was Joe M. — whom I’d met on one or two previous events.  After my first encounter, Joe’s neighbor and my boss at the time told me that Joe was an alcoholic who had just retired from 25 years with the IRS.  Needless to say, I was guarded in expressing my political views to Joe as the IRS had hounded my dad into an early grave in 1977 — at age 59 – over an otherwise trivial estate matter.  

Joe was pretty deep into his cups at the function in question and began telling IRS “war stories.”  Most had to do with clear cases of criminal conduct aimed at OTHER citizens by not very nice people.   Joe — who was a few years short of 60 — sounded to me like someone who enjoyed helping getting really Service” had changed for the worse.  Then I asked him about the new people coming in.  He shook his head, actually teared up and said that many of them were “really bad.” I pressed.  “Really bad” meant incompetent?  “No — DANGEROUS,” he responded “they like to hurt people.” 
 
It was then that I think I understood why Joe drank.

Something to think about as the body count among those IRS targeted conservative organizations – not to mention those troublesome individual “Patriots” (now classified by fedzillas as “Terrorists”) — grows.


7 posted on 05/27/2016 8:20:27 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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They need to forbid it unless there has been an actual conviction for a crime ... a crime OTHER that avoiding reporting by neither withdrawing or depositing so much.


8 posted on 05/27/2016 8:20:51 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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IRS = American Gestapo

Isn't that kind of an insult to the Gestapo? 😀😃

9 posted on 05/27/2016 8:22:37 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Rurudyne

That’s funny: I thought that due process was guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and the Feds couldn’t take your property without compensation. Silly me.

TC


10 posted on 05/27/2016 8:31:02 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: MtnClimber
Congress is considering a bill that would prohibit the federal government from punishing people who haven’t committed any crime.

Question, what is the Fifth Amendment?

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

11 posted on 05/27/2016 8:31:33 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Dick Bachert

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn


12 posted on 05/27/2016 9:06:25 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: MtnClimber
So, nobody needs to use the bank anyhow.

No more Glass Steagall protection that way, thanks to Bill Clinton.

13 posted on 05/27/2016 9:11:24 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: MtnClimber

too bad the idiots at NR don’t know what we all know — levy and restraint is a scam. go eat that NR.


14 posted on 05/27/2016 9:16:40 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

That’s funny: I thought that due process was guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and the Feds couldn’t take your property without compensation. Silly me.

TC>> the IRS operates like every agency in it’s own court system. called a court but it doesn’t quack


15 posted on 05/27/2016 9:18:48 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MtnClimber

interest rates are zero.

cash or gold


16 posted on 05/27/2016 9:24:48 PM PDT by RockyTx
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when a small business deducts SocialSecurity taxes
(FICA) from your paycheck,
who should get that money?

the small business?
the IRS?


17 posted on 05/27/2016 9:43:12 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: Chickensoup

have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn>>> great post know one on this web site knows who he is.


18 posted on 05/27/2016 9:59:28 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MtnClimber
The $10,000 reporting requirement was enacted in 1970 as part of Nixon's drug war.

The amount has stayed the same over the years, so inflation has automatically deepened the reach of fedgov into your personal lives.

19 posted on 05/27/2016 10:00:47 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: dfwgator

“IRS = American Gestapo”

It’s designed to be a collection agency for the Federal Reserve.


20 posted on 05/28/2016 5:05:35 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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