Posted on 05/24/2016 12:55:10 PM PDT by wtd
The chief of Egypt's forensics authority denied reports Tuesday that an initial examination of human remains from doomed EgyptAir Flight 804 pointed to an explosion, Egypt's state news agency MENA reported.
“Everything published about this matter is completely false and mere assumptions that did not come from the forensics authority,” MENA quoted Hesham Abdelhamid as saying in a statement.
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It appears there is no consensus on an 'approved narrative'. What is consistent, however, is the information disputed (black box located, distress calls noted, flight took sudden turns) is usually from sources outside of Egypt.
It sounds like we need some Americans helping these idiots.
So it was Islamic suicide then?
CAIRO (AP) — The question of what caused EgyptAir Flight 804 to crash in the Mediterranean, killing all 66 on board, remains shrouded in confusion, speculation and conflicting statements. Here is a look at what is known so far and what questions remain unanswered.
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One of the primary questions is whether or not the plane was brought down by a bomb or some sort of mechanical failure. On Tuesday, two different Egyptian officials publicly disagreed on whether or not the available evidence indicated an on-board explosion. A senior Egyptian forensics official told The Associated Press that the condition of the human remains collected from the crash site so far indicated an explosion. Later however, the head of Egypt's forensic agency dismissed such talk, calling it "baseless."
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The strongest indication of trouble on the flight so far comes from smoke detectors that went off and transmitted messages in the plane's final moments. France's air accident investigation agency said smoke was detected in multiple areas on the plane, with spokesman Sebastien Barthe telling the AP that such messages "generally mean the start of a fire." The cause however remains unclear for the French, with Barthe saying his organization was "drawing no conclusions from this. Everything else is pure conjecture." Industry publication Aviation Herald has reported that sensors detected smoke in the plane's lavatory, as well as a fault in two of the plane's cockpit windows in the final moments of the flight.
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While Egyptian officials publicly disagreed with each other Tuesday about whether the evidence so far indicated an explosion, there is also debate as to whether the plane suddenly flew erratically in its final moments before crashing. Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos has said it swerved 90 degrees to the left, then spun a full 360 degrees to the right as it plummeted and fell off radar. But the Egyptians refute this.
Ehab Azmy, the head of Egypt's state-run provider of air navigation services, says that the plane did not swerve or lose altitude before it disappeared. Azmy says that the plane was flying at its normal altitude of 37,000 feet when it vanished from radar. Egypt has also swiftly denied other reports over the plane's final moments — one that the pilots had sent a distress signal, and another that they had communicated with Egyptian air traffic control over plans to put out a fire on board.
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No group has claimed responsibility for the crash. The very day the plane went down, Egypt's Aviation Minister Sherif Fathi said that the possibility of a terror attack "is higher than the possibility of having a technical failure." The statement comes in stark contrast to Egypt's handling of last year's downing of a Russian airliner, when officials constantly denied the terrorism possibility, even after Russian investigators said a bomb had brought the plane down. President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who eventually accepted the Russian assessment, has communicated quickly on the EgyptAir crash, cautioning against premature speculation. "There is not one scenario that we can exclusively subscribe to," he told Egyptian television. "All scenarios are possible."
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The search is still on for the plane's black boxes, which could be deep on the sea bed. There had been initial reports that they were found but Egypt later denied this. The first audio available from the flight indicates that all was routine when it checked in with air traffic controllers in Zurich, Switzerland, late Wednesday night, before being handed over to Italian air traffic controllers.
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Experts have also raised the theory of a rogue passenger taking over controls of the plane, or a struggle between pilots. But three European security officials say the flight's passenger manifest contained no known names on current terror watch lists. The lists are often used by both European and American security and law enforcement agencies. The passenger manifest was leaked online and has not been officially verified by EgyptAir.
“It sounds like we need some Americans helping these idiots.”
Perhaps there are, if only to simply convince at least half of American voters with this particular narrative that TRUMP WAS WRONG.
I hate when I’m on a jihad and I’ve worked my way into a position of trust flying a major airplane, and then some other jihadist puts a bomb on my plane.
Do I still get my virgins? I want my virgins.
Exactly what happened with EgyptAir flight 990 back in 1999.
You're saying it was NOT terrorism?
Here are your 72 raisins my son.
Depends on the type of virgins. Do they have feet or hooves?
This is very odd. The debris and body parts were immediately located...usually the investigators can easily tell whether or not it was an explosion.
FWIW I have heard the water is about a mile deep there, which could complicate things.
You do know who is running the asylum right now, don't you???
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With all these conflicting reports and particularly the denials coming from Egyptian officials, one begins to wonder if the Egyptian officials are hoping to run the clock on the black boxes...as happened with MH370.
They want to hide the truth - it’s inevitable that they will find terrorism and that’s not a good thing for tourism.
“You’re saying it was NOT terrorism?”
No, I’m saying that the narrative being sold now is an attempt to discredit Trump’s (and many. many of our) immediate assessment.
They’ve got a lot of experience discrediting terror attacks for political gain, for years if necessary.
it’s about the economy
Makes sense, I agree.
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