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.22 vs .223 – Home Defense – Drywall Penetration
thefirearmblog.com ^ | 5/9/2016 | Nathan S.

Posted on 05/09/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by rktman

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To: Blueflag

Exactly. When living in a townhouse, condominium, apartment, or anywhere penetrating interior/exterior walls is a major concern, simply opt for a shotgun.

Before my terrible (all firearms were lost) boating accident...basic defense duty typically went to the Remington 870 Police Magnum loaded with 2.75" shells despite owning plenty of rifles and handguns. Such an unfortunate situation that my rowboat capsized. :-(


21 posted on 05/09/2016 11:03:00 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: rktman

The rain has stooped, go outside and go shooting!!! You must be bored to start a drywall penetration thread!!!!


22 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman

Hmm, sounds like I need to add this to the corollary section of the 5 rules of a gun fight.

1) Gun beats no gun.
Corollary:
- if your gun is to big, heavy, ugly or whatever to carry and you leave it at home, you have no gun.
- if you run out of bullets or can’t clear your jam, you have no gun
[new]
- if you are afraid to shoot for fear of hitting others, you have no gun


23 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:23 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: bicyclerepair
When the d-bag hears KACHUNK, he’ll run away know where you are.
24 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:38 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Vermont Lt
We use a double barreled shot gun for that.

I got a Cimmaron coach gun for my wife.

Not much to remember, just cock the hammers and pull the triggers.

25 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: rktman
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26 posted on 05/09/2016 11:04:59 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: mad_as_he$$

stooped=stopped

autocorrect is my worst enema.


27 posted on 05/09/2016 11:05:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: rktman
H&R Pardner Tactical Shotgun $ 199 problem solved


28 posted on 05/09/2016 11:05:49 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: bicyclerepair
When the d-bag hears KACHUNK

That whole kachunk think doesn't fly with me. That means the gun wasn't ready to fire and you may have given up your surprise advantage. If it comes to guns in my house, I want the first shot, not kachunk.

29 posted on 05/09/2016 11:06:32 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: lacrew

That is correct. More people have died from 22lr gunshots than any other caliber. (might be more than all others put together, do not remember the stat).

Come at someone holding a 10/22 or a Ruger MK II, and you will quickly be leaking from 10 or more new holes.

A gun is not some kind of magical instant death machine. Not like the movies, at all. It takes disruption of CNS to incapacitate quickly, otherwise, it is due to low blood pressure from blood loss.

The Miami Shootout guys were mortally wounded early in the fight, but kept on fighting.


30 posted on 05/09/2016 11:06:49 AM PDT by wrench
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To: rktman
Home defense starts here.


31 posted on 05/09/2016 11:07:14 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman

So the lesson here is, make sure, that is, MAKE SURE you hit the bad guy, because if you don’t, the bullet is going to end up WAY past where you think it will end up. The question I’m left with, I wonder about birdshot as opposed to 00 Buckshot.


32 posted on 05/09/2016 11:08:38 AM PDT by Wingy
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To: central_va
What are you talking about? Home defense starts here:


33 posted on 05/09/2016 11:09:33 AM PDT by PJBankard
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To: bicyclerepair

“When the d-bag hears KACHUNK, he’ll run away”

After he hears KACHUNK he will hear a shotgun shell hit the floor, keep one in the tube


34 posted on 05/09/2016 11:11:33 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: PJBankard
Farm defense starts here:


35 posted on 05/09/2016 11:12:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman
I vote for the .22LR pistol for a pillow gun and general purpose, self-defense weapon.

Compared with the larger caliber hand cannons, and setting drywall penetration concerns and needlessly endangering neighbors with your trash problem, less is more.

The .22LR offers less noise, less flash, less weight and less recoil, all of which adds up to faster repeat shots on target, as fast as you can squeeze that trigger. Less money per round, too, assuming you can find any.

Those advantages become even more significant if you're older or smaller or weaker or are dealing with injury or arthritis or are a bit gun shy or are simply out of practice.

As always and with all things, ymmv.

36 posted on 05/09/2016 11:13:03 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: rktman

Some people load shotgun shells with rock salt.

Solid (crystal) Drano, on the other hand.......


37 posted on 05/09/2016 11:14:08 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: Wingy
I wonder about birdshot as opposed to 00 Buckshot.

I wouldn't use birdshot, but you can use smaller buckshot and/or lighter powder loads (typically labeled "reduced recoil" or "tactical").

38 posted on 05/09/2016 11:14:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The Desert was Beautiful shooting on Saturday.
Wheel Guns Rule!


39 posted on 05/09/2016 11:14:33 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: PJBankard
You're both wrong:


40 posted on 05/09/2016 11:15:36 AM PDT by Wolfie
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