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Pentagon to test F-35 against A-10 in 'common sense' war scenario showdown
Stars and Stripes ^ | April 26, 2016 | By Travis J. Tritten

Posted on 04/27/2016 3:58:00 PM PDT by Chode

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To: Don Corleone

exactly, outcome is bought and paid for and rigged!

just like Colorado GOPe theft of republican voters participation in the state caucuses.............

this is all show! Helps rig and guarantee the retirement of the Wart-Hog


61 posted on 04/27/2016 6:14:53 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Chode

I’m a Chiefs fan so….GO WARTHOG!


62 posted on 04/27/2016 6:16:25 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: TomServo

The F-16 recently waxed the 35 in air to air. Keep the 16 and the A-10. We know they do what they are supposed to do.


63 posted on 04/27/2016 6:30:38 PM PDT by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
My guess would be the F-35. It could acquire the A-10 and launch radar guided air-to-air missiles from at least 50 miles away.

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The Soviets could do that 35 years ago


64 posted on 04/27/2016 6:32:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." - Karl Marx)
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To: Travis McGee

A lot of our Cold War-post cold war battlefield strategy is based on total air superiority.

We sure do take that for granted.

Imagine US troops being subjected to attacks from the air, and the casualties that would result. Granted, we are damn good at that, and inflict a lot of casualties...but if some other enemy had the means, it makes me shudder to consider it.


65 posted on 04/27/2016 6:38:45 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Chode

Hahahaha...you just photoshopped that up, didn’t you?


66 posted on 04/27/2016 6:40:06 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The only sensible test is a ground attack comparison.

Since a ‘22 lr could take down an F-35, the A-10 is really the obvious choice (at approximately 1% of the cost and a lot more reliability).

And yes, I was a flight test type at Edwards...back when the A-10 was competing against the A-9. (Yup, dates me.....)

Oh, the F-16 had just won against the F-17 then. The ‘16 still betters the F-35, and the losing F-17 became the Navy’s great F-18.


67 posted on 04/27/2016 6:40:11 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Chode

But the real question is, how will the F-35 perform against Sharks with Frikking Laser Beams?


68 posted on 04/27/2016 6:40:52 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: TomServo

“I remember A-10s whipping F-16’s in 2v2.”

Indeed true. I flew some F-15s against them back at Edwards in the previous century. You won’t get behind something that can turn on a time...and then points a wall of solid lead, er, depleted uranium at you.

Of course, a good air to air missile will take care of that, but the A-10 is a close air support weapon...and the best there ever was.


69 posted on 04/27/2016 6:47:30 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Oh those 2v2 games at Edwards were merely messing around....when we had some extra minutes after some FOT (follow on training) in our respective aircraft. It was always interesting putting very dissimilar aircraft together.

Oh, those days..........


70 posted on 04/27/2016 6:50:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Chode

It would be more logical to build an improved A-10, and in a sane world, cheaper.


71 posted on 04/27/2016 6:50:50 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: rlmorel
i'd love to take credit for it, but i cannot tell a lie... i stole it
72 posted on 04/27/2016 6:53:23 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Shadow44

A $400 BILLION screw up.


73 posted on 04/27/2016 6:53:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

So you are going to use a tons of millions of dollar F35 for ground support missions instead of the combat-proven, heavily armored Warthog which costs a fraction of the F35?

We only have a few F35s and at their price somewhere over $500 Million (according to some figures I’ve seen - need more cost info here), losing just 2 could cost almost a Billion dollars to replace.

A SMART Air Force has three types of aircraft, fighter to fighter, fighter to ground and ground attack only

Under Obama, the world “SMART” has been obliterated from our military planning and leaders.


74 posted on 04/27/2016 7:00:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Chode

Will it be a fair comparison or will they cook the books for the 35?

Fine time to be thinking about this now.

After how many billions of taxpayer money?


75 posted on 04/27/2016 7:05:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: rlmorel

We are rapidly losing any air superiority we have left. The Russians are producing new planes every few years, and in great numbers (even for sales overseas).

The Red Chinese are mass producing fighters, missiles, missile boats, and developing “missile swarm” attack tactics.

The Reds can lose half their force or more, but in the end, they will wipe us out just by using superior numbers. As I have said many times, when you have 1.6 Billion, people, you’ll get all the pilots you need and can lose in order to win with the remainders.

Our leaders are more than stupid. They are traitors!


76 posted on 04/27/2016 7:09:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Chode; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


77 posted on 04/27/2016 7:09:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I have always had some disdain for the training and quality of equipment of the Russians and Chicoms, but one thing I have never discounted is the old adage that quantity has a quality all of its own.


78 posted on 04/27/2016 7:16:40 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: Jet Jaguar
even when the Hog wins, we all know the game is rigged, and it's ripe for slaughter... damn
79 posted on 04/27/2016 7:25:01 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Da Coyote

Exactly. I worked with them all the time (WCT), got a few bubble checks from the jocks. They could fly low, slow and like you said - turn on a dime. Of course, their favorite was to hit the brakes, wait for the overfly and it was “guns, guns”.


80 posted on 04/27/2016 7:28:06 PM PDT by TomServo
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