Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Pentagon to test F-35 against A-10 in 'common sense' war scenario showdown
Stars and Stripes ^ | April 26, 2016 | By Travis J. Tritten

Posted on 04/27/2016 3:58:00 PM PDT by Chode

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-92 last
To: frithguild

will an F-35’s weapons sound like somebody is opening Satan’s fly?


81 posted on 04/27/2016 7:49:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Strawman #351)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“...A SMART Air Force has three types of aircraft, fighter to fighter, fighter to ground and ground attack only

Under Obama, the world “SMART” has been obliterated from our military planning and leaders.”

MM is behind the times.

Under the leadership [sic] of the fighter pilotry, USAF has been busily turning itself into that three-airframe handmaiden of the backward-gazing, lumpen-traditionalist US Army that MM so worships, since 1992. The rest of USAF candidly derides the Langley Mafia as the overbearing egomaniac nitwits who don’t know their own job, and can’t follow their own rules.

Any modern military that restricts air power to the two-dimensional linear battlefield envisioned by Hudson High grads will eventually lose. Ideas that sprang from the minds of William Mitchell, Giulio Douhet, Hugh Trenchard, and Ferdinand Graf von Zeppelin have yet to be tried.


82 posted on 04/27/2016 8:07:07 PM PDT by schurmann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: schurmann

I managed Mitchell Hall at Lackland AFB for a short time while awaiting appointment to another civil service job.

One time I was going through the attic and noticed a statue of Billy Mitchell. It was painted gold and he had wings like an angel. It was such an oddball thing that it was obvious why it was in the attic and not on display.


83 posted on 04/27/2016 8:20:38 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: centurion316

I agree. Why they never made an A-10 Thunderbolt III is puzzling.


84 posted on 04/27/2016 8:27:14 PM PDT by Blue Highway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Chode
The only way to make this a fair trial is to divide the cost of ONE F-35 by the cost of ONE A-10.

Then, put ONE F-35 up against that number of A-10s.

85 posted on 04/27/2016 10:01:01 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yarddog

AC-130 variants operate only at night due to vulnerability to most ground weapons.


86 posted on 04/28/2016 2:19:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Chode

Meanwhile back in the USSR, the A10’s counterpart, the old SU-25 gets upgraded to SU-25SM3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3425400/posts

“Thus, the Soviet-era Frogfoot is likely to serve well into the 21st Century even while its American counterpart, the Fairchild Republic A-10 Warthog, is phased out of U.S. Air Force service by 2022.”


87 posted on 04/28/2016 2:25:30 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Da Coyote
the A-10 is really the obvious choice (at approximately 1% of the cost and a lot more reliability).

Agreed. But I don't think that is the point of this exercise.

They want to design tests that the A-10 can't win and the F-35 can't lose in order for them to be able to say, "See? We told you the A-10 is no longer useful. Now give us another $500 million."

What other reason would there be to hold these types of trials if not to drive another nail in the 'Hog's coffin?

88 posted on 04/28/2016 6:10:54 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (#BlackOlivesMatter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Svartalfiar

Svartalfiar wrote:
The only competition the A10 will be allowed to win (to make it seem fair!) will be loiter time. No way they can fake a F35 win on that one.

Wanna bet? Have a crap ton of KC135 tankers parked over head for quick refueling.


89 posted on 04/28/2016 6:16:41 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: PIF
 photo IMGP0156.jpg

Yes, that is basically what I said in my first post.

They will often show up at dusk and I can hear them circling this area for hours. Every now and then they will fly in the daytime. This one was circling and going in and out of clouds. Patches of blue and patches of clouds. It really was surprising how quickly they could disappear.

90 posted on 04/28/2016 8:10:07 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 86 | View Replies]

To: Chode

I hope this “showdown” is honest and without a pre-planned conclusion. It seems like comparing an apple to an overpriced 3 course meal made by 3 chefs who hate each other.


91 posted on 04/28/2016 8:14:13 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yarddog

” ... One time I was going through the attic and noticed a statue of Billy Mitchell. It was painted gold and he had wings like an angel. It was such an oddball thing that it was obvious why it was in the attic and not on display.”

Statues of early airpower proponents are rare. Interesting contrast to USMA/West Point, where there are a number of statues of historical figures.

When Strategic Air Command stood down in 1992, all manner of chaos ensured in custody and positioning of organizational awards, trophies, keepsakes, and other public memorabilia (charges were threatened in one situation). Things grew rapidly worse when the SAC Museum (long an occupant of the east end of a disused WWII vintage runway, hard against the city of Bellevue) pulled up stakes and moved to a more complete facility some 25 miles southwest near Ashland) - on pain of confiscation of historical assets.

Bad blood was scented, though no non-rhetorical blood actually got spilled (that I heard of). Probably near-miraculous, in retrospect.


92 posted on 05/02/2016 3:43:30 PM PDT by schurmann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-92 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson