Posted on 04/23/2016 1:09:33 PM PDT by minimum12
All it does is force trans men and women to use bathrooms based on the sex that they were born in, considering that many trans men and women simply look like regular men and women, it does the opposite of the intended effect. It gives the pretext for straight perverted men to pretend to be transgender to enter women's bathrooms while dressing normally. They don't even need to wear a dress to enter the bathroom, they can just look like normal straight men and enter (because many trans men simply look like men) do you realize how ridiculous this law is and why for hundreds of years a law like this never existed?
Trump is right.
Example of Trans men who look like normal men are now forced to use Women's bathrooms.
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Agree.
Name another mental illness where society is required to fascilitate the person’’s fantasy. If a person thinks they are Jesus, do we have to build them a church? If they think they are Napoleon, give them a throne?
The goal is to make mental orientation a legitimate minority group, and once the courts endorse that, then the next step is to include protections for pedophiles.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/heidi-cruz-face-of-god
You tell me, if we have to build Cruz a ‘church’.
Isn’t it revealing? (No pun intended.)
On the one hand, the favored few (so-called) Social Justice Warriors (read: Wussies) on campuses, which ostensibly are in place to expose young minds to new ideas, are to have their sacrosanct INTELLECTUAL “safe places” undefiled by anything resembling - shudder - conservative thought; on the other hand, real flesh-and-blood young girls of the general populace are to have no PHYSICAL safe places in ANY public place.
This is what I call the New CIA: Communism In Action.
It is “redistribution”: redistribution of “rights” from the normal majority to the abnormal minority.
Oh, and this country DESERVES a bigger ZOT than Sodom ever got. If there is a nuclear firestorm one dark day soon in these big liberal cities, I will not raise one eyebrow, because we deserve it so much.
What is counterproductive is FReepers supporting the perversion of men in women’s restrooms. The reason that law had to be made is because these perverts forced the issue. Before, we had a live-and-let live going on, and the police had the law on their side to be able to prosecute the predators. But now, since the Obergfell decision, the homosexuals have been pushing more and more and more for access to bathrooms. Well, backlash was bound to happen.
What the hell is that picture supposed to mean? That mean you support these perverts?
Bingo. It’s not just bathrooms. The left is using bathrooms, the most easily finessed, as its rhetorical battering ram. Every time the issue is raised, conservatives should insist on a yes or no answer on whether 15 year old girls should be forced to shower with mentally ill boys. We should treat people with mental illnesses, including this one, with dignity and respect. That does not mean that we should seek to normalize their disorder. And it certainly does NOT mean that we must conscript teenage girls as unpaid psychiatric sex workers, forced into naked playacting to make the mentally ill more comfortable in their delusional fantasy life.
Let’s be honest about this, how many gay people or Lesbians are going to use the opposite sex bathroom. this problem makes up such a small percentage of transgender and BiSexual that change back to the other sex tomorrow out of confusion.
No not as much. Plenty of people here fight against the decay and decline. No one fought against it in Sodom.
Given our current streak of losses though, its clear we need to fight harder and not rest as much.
But have you noticed how the "it's just a trivial issue, get over it" argument only works in one direction? Why isn't there an argument that, "It's just one tiny pizzeria in Indiana; don't sweat it." Or "it's just one bakery; there are many bakeries, so just find another one." Or "look, it's no big deal if a transgender kid has to use the bathroom appropriate for his/her biological sex; it's always been that way and there's no real problem." In a sane world, this is exactly what most people would say, and we would work out reasonable accommodations that treated people with dignity and respect while also respecting the sensibilities of the majority. Mutual respect for privacy and live and let live go a long way.
These arguments, however, get absolutely no traction in PC world. The left holds that it is incandescently important that traditionalists be reeducated and forced to comply with the diktat of the week. The whole leftist attack machine goes full jihad if a dissenter digs in and tries to hold his ground; the Departments of Education, or Labor, or Justice will be filing suits and withholding funding; the media will be in an uproar; people will lose their jobs; careers will be destroyed. While the Quislings on our side say it's not important enough to fight over.
Nailed it.
Are you really thickheaded or just being deliberately obtuse?
The law requires that women-to-male transgenders would also be allowed to use women’s bathrooms, like the examples of the people in the OP.
The NC law requires that people use facilities in accordance with the gender listed on their birth certificate. People who are changing from their sex to the opposite sex at some point change the sex on their bc so they can get driver’s licenses, etc., which match their “new” sex. Ergo, people who have changed from one sex to the other can use their chosen facilities.
There could be a situation where a biological male dressed and even surgically altered to be female goes into a women's restroom. If an employee stops or confronts him about using the women's restroom, the employee will have to somehow prove that person is indeed a man.
And then there is the possibility that the person thought to be a male is actually biologically female. If that is the case, the woman who appeared to be a man is going to have a civil case against the business.
From personal experience, the transgenders were more than eager to enforce the most retrograde feminine standards, lecturing me (a woman) on how to wear makeup, ought to wear a dress, grow my hair out, out-woman a woman to prove they were really women.
The only thing those I dealt with that rivaled the women was sheer cattiness in the snide comments and critiques.
It was horrible to have a transgender trap me in a bathroom stall so I couldn’t leave to lecture me on how uncomfortable it was when I gave it a sideways glance. Or tell me how a bleeding neo-vagina was akin to a woman having her period, and how I should empathize.
I had no problem telling because they would adjust things in front of everyone and expect us to ignore it, sexually harass women through critical comments that would get “real men” fired, be in your face about being more female than females.
If one had the plumbing removed and was discrete, I don’t care. However, most transgenders are men (80%+) who have not had the plumbing removed (fewer than a quarter do), so they now try to act out the worst extremes of feminine behavior to try to validate the delusion. To make it worse is how they would enter women’s spaces to “prove” it, from changing rooms to women’s luncheons to women’s professional groups to etc. And then they’d be out and proud about how they are so glad to be among the women and accepted ...
So I have never known a transgender that was discrete, nor do I care if I have. But none of the ones I’ve dealt with were discrete.
do you realize how ridiculous this law is and why for hundreds of years a law like this never existed?
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YES BECAUSE WE DID NOT TOLERATE FREAK HOMOSEXUAL TRANSEXUALS IN SOCIETY OR HAVE LEADERS AFRAID OF THEM OR A PRESIDENT WHO WAS ONE OF THEM.
But now we have the entire education system teaching our young that this lifestyle of dead end death is just another choice......and we have Trump afraid of the Gay Mafia.
Maybe there are ways to influence Trump that aren’t made of gold.....like photos maybe.
Trump is taking the ProLife and ProFamily millions for granted.....the surprise will be in Cleveland.
Yes, the law states sex, not gender nor gender identity. Sex is biological and gender is mental (she says tongue in cheek).
The fact is progressives and their lawyers and unelected bureaucratic toadies are misrepresenting the law.
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