Posted on 04/07/2016 11:59:33 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
The resolution says he was born on base, but I have read a dozen times here that he was born in a hospital in the COUNTRY of Panama.
I am one of those foreign born births. That is the reason I happen to know what 'natural born' US citizen literally means. IT is akin to a birthright and ONLY two citizen parents giving birth to their child on US soil bequeaths that birthright.
I was born in Germany to a US citizen soldier and a US citizen mother... But the US NEVER claimed Germany as US soil. I do NOT have a born in USA birth certificate... Parents ought to be educated if they desire to bequeath 'natural born' US citizenship to their offspring.
Arthur’s father was born in Ireland and moved to Canada before Vermont. Was he an american citizen when arthur was born?
from the senate resolution at the link:
Whereas the term natural born Citizen, as that term appears in Article II, Section 1, is not defined in the Constitution of the United States;
Whereas there is no evidence of the intention of the Framers or any Congress to limit the constitutional rights of children born to Americans serving in the military nor to prevent those children from serving as their country’s President;
Whereas such limitations would be inconsistent with the purpose and intent of the natural born Citizen clause of the Constitution of the United States, as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term natural born Citizen;
Whereas the well-being of all citizens of the United States is preserved and enhanced by the men and women who are assigned to serve our country outside of our national borders;
Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President; and
It would seem to me that the senate said that they needed to do the resolution because Mccain was born outside the US. So that would seem to not bode well for Cruz. But that’s the senate and not the USSC.
Anybody else on this?
Obama’s REAL father was Frank Marshall Davis, American Communist.
There’s two interpretations I can see regarding the senate doing a resolution. One is it is an interpretation of the constitution and the responsibility of the USSC or the other, the senate is clarifying the intent of congress and they have the power to do that?
I welcome some opinions that have more knowledge of this subject that I do. And that could be a lot of people. LOL
Sure. That works.
Look who put this resolution together.
Mrs. McCaskill (for herself, Mr. Leahy, Mr. Obama, Mr. Coburn, Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Webb) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
April 24, 2008
Reported by Mr. Leahy, without amendment
Why it was the liberals... doing lord McCain a favor, but look who was hiding in plain sight... OBAMA...
I think this is from Leo Donofrio:
“According to the birth certificate and COLB of John McCain, McCain was born in Colon Hospital, city of Colon, Panama. While the BC states at the top that it is from the “Canal Zone”, the document also states that McCain was born in Colon Hospital, city of Colon. The city of Colon and the hospital were not in the Canal Zone.
The common story you hear is that McCain was born in the Canal Zone, but these documents posted online do not testify to that. Furthermore, there is no official document that has ever surfaced which states that McCain was born in the Canal Zone.”
More discussion here:
https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/john-mccain-citizen-of-panama-at-birth/
OK and your response to my question about the senate or the USSC having the authority?
It would seem the resolution is on the record and voted by the senate (liberals or not, Obama or not), so it may serve as a clarification for the court.
But the mere existence of the resolution indicates they thought a resolution wa needed and that could be bad news for Cruz.
It makes no difference as to his eligibility. He is eligible either way.
Crackpots talk about bases being "US territory" or some such nonsense. But (1) it doesn't matter and (2) if a base were US territory, then any babies born to Panamanian parents on base would be anchor babies, but they are not!
Anyone have a different source?
ALL of Colon was part of the Panama Canal Zone. As you get into the 1945 era, there are parts of the area that were went from military-use to canal-use, and eventually flipped over to the Panama gov’t.
Go and view the map of the complete Canal Zone:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/CanalZone.png
There are people who are trying to view different parts of Colon from 1960s or 1980s....but in the era prior to 1945, it was a fairly large chunk of land which was administered and run by the US gov’t.
The senate thought it made a difference because he was born out of the US. They say that in the resolution. The resolution covered McCain.
Now comes Cruz and he’s hanging out there without a resolution and not born in the Zone or on a base or to US military family.
Just a crackpot trying to make some sense of all the comments.
Mitch McConnell: Why no, the Senate won’t pass a resolution affirming Cruz’s eligibility like it did for McCain
POSTED AT 2:01 PM ON JANUARY 12, 2016 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
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Crus playing fast and loose with ‘natural born’ US citizenship requirement
Trump tower?
I believe it is a court prerogative to determine the definition. The senate cannot define it or clarify because none of them were around when the constitutional article was written. That could be better for Cruz because McConnell would hang him out to dry as he is already doing.
Thanx for your contribution.
The problem with the resolution is there is no Constitutional authority for Congress or a Court to give or take ‘natural born’ US citizenship... What the Senate did was not Constitutional, but nobody, took notice, but said OK that makes sense.
Congress and the Courts are consistently making stuff up out of many threads of cloth of their own weaving, and call it ‘constitutional’.
Nevertheless, you are eligible as long as you were born on or before noon on 20 January 1982 and have resided fourteen years in the US. Anyone advising you otherwise is a quack.
And the supremes constantly avoid addressing issues. If they had taken any of the several cases about Obama, we wouldn’t have this BS now.
I don’t know why congress cannot clarify something that they pass, but none of these senators were around in the l1780s and 90s. It just seems that way.
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