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Trump’s Lies Are a Loyalty Test for His Followers
National Review ^ | April 2, 2016 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/02/2016 11:18:24 AM PDT by DrewsDad

A Unified Fields Theory

Until Trump changed the subject to punishing women for having abortions, the Trump obsession of the week was Michelle Fields.

I’m glad that story is largely gone. I don’t think it was good for Fields or for the forces opposed to Trump. And it distracted from more important stories, like Trump’s willingness to nuke Europe.

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Without rehashing the whole thing again with reference to frame-by-frame analysis best left for the Zapruder film, let me just say I think all of the important and relevant facts are on Fields’s side. There’s audio of her describing what happened immediately after the Corey Lewandowski incident. There are the bruises captured on film. There’s video and there are eye-witness accounts, all of which corroborate the basic story Fields has been telling.

To listen to Trump’s and Lewandowski’s defenders, this is all a big lie, the upshot being that Fields invented the whole story in a deviously clever gambit to trade her job at Breitbart and her regular gig on Eric Bolling’s show for something so much better. Indeed, I think her plan went something like this:

Step 1: Ask Donald Trump about affirmative action while he’s walking out of a press conference.

Step 2: Walk in just such a way as to dupe Corey Lewandowski into putting his hands on me.

Step 3: Pretend that he grabbed me too hard, convincing eyewitnesses on scene that something bad happened.

Step 4: Bruise my own arm and take a picture of it.

Step 5: Ask for an apology from the Trump campaign, which is like asking Trump to create a boulder too heavy for him to lift.

Step 6: Wait for my own news organization to throw me under the bus, then quit job.

Step 7: Wait for the checks to roll in!

Still, what happened to Fields was not Kristallnacht and Lewandowski should not, in my opinion, stand trial or be sent to even five minutes of jail. I think he’s a boorish lout and he behaved stupidly. If Lewandoswki had common sense or decency, he would have apologized for overreacting and thrown Fields an interview with Trump to make amends. The whole thing would have been over without any of us having heard a word about it.

Second Thoughts on Trump

But observing common courtesy and civility is not what Team Trump does. And that’s the real issue here. Donald Trump and his campaign take great pride in overturning the basic rules of politics and democratic discourse. For those who want to see “the establishment” — however defined — torn down, this bull-in-a-china-shop stuff is celebrated. Trump’s fans ascribe a brilliance to his actions that is wholly underserved. Breaking the rules in ways large and small is seen as self-justifying in every case.

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Or almost every case. This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together.

As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.

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The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.

#related#His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet.

Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them.

By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.

#share#

The Gravitational Pull of Lies

But can I go back to Michelle Fields for a moment? I think that whole affair was really instructive.

Trump is a master of a kind of passive aggression — though it can often just seem like plain old aggression. When caught in a lie, Trump doesn’t merely stick to the lie, he enlarges it. Not only did Lewandowski do nothing wrong, he saved Trump from an assault! That pen could have been a bomb! A bomb!!! (Remember when he suggested a protester who charged the stage was with ISIS?)

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By embracing and enlarging the lie, Trump gives his most ardent fans no escape. They must either fall in line with yet another comfortable story about how their leader is both supremely right and a victim of deceit or open themselves up to the possibility that this one instance of deception and boorishness isn’t unique but utterly representative, which it is.

I think many of us have known people like this. Inveterate liars and other kinds of sociopaths test the limits of polite society. They break the implicit bargain that says you can get away with lying only so long as everyone agrees not to notice. Obvious lies are insults, because they rest on the assumption that the person being lied to is either too stupid to recognize the lie or too weak to say anything about it. In this sense, Trump has been insulting his biggest supporters from day one.

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We’ve all had dinner parties or family gatherings ruined by that oaf who refuses to bend to simple politeness. They force polite people to either swallow small — or large — insults for the sake of civility. “I didn’t want to make a huge deal about it because it would have just made things worse,” is a rationalization we’ve given voice to on the drive home.

Trump is doing this on a massive scale. Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks. For instance, when Trump was caught saying something typically ignorant about abortion, he told Eric Bolling that MSNBC cut out the nuance of what he really said.

“You really ought to hear the whole thing,” Trump told guest host Eric Bolling. “This is a long convoluted question. This was a long discussion, and they just cut it out. And, frankly, it was extremely — it was really convoluted.”

Of course, Trump knows that MSNBC ran the clip in its entirety, and Bolling probably does, too. But I am sure that if I went on Twitter and said, “Trump lied about his comments being edited,” within minutes I’d hear from people saying “No, MSNBC edited him!” or “Of course you RINOs would believe MSNBC!” I’ll also be interested to see if Bolling says anything about the fact that Donald Trump blatantly lied to him.

But I won’t hold my breath.


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To: DrewsDad
The worst propaganda sites are the"conservative"treehouse, prntly, and themarshallreport.

I don't have a lock on the Yellow Kid, nor on the yellowjournalism keyword.

Call it as you see it when someone posts an article from one of those sources.

The National sSpew went over the line when they printed their cukservative issue bashing Trump - and when one of their liars posted an article bashing Trump over the veteran charity donations the day of a Super primary.

Real journalists had written an article four days before that detailing what was happening with the money - but the eSpew liar went ahead and posted his lies.

181 posted on 04/02/2016 5:54:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: kiryandil
I don't include you in that group

Maybe I need to step up my production. (-;

182 posted on 04/02/2016 5:55:14 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: DrewsDad
Maybe I need to step up my production. (-;

Try to match their pace. I did, for a couple of days, and found out a few things about what was going on.

I'm a VERY experienced FR poster, and am VERY good - better than they are. But I'm not getting paid, which might make the difference in the pace of the article posting. :)

Now, if I was getting paid, I could keep up a 3-5 daily article stream, with a bit of effort.

You'd also find out why one of them posts in the middle of the night. You've been here long enough to know the competition to get the "first" article on the forum on a particular breaking story.

But that's only during the DAY. At night, the eager beavers are sleeping...

183 posted on 04/02/2016 6:01:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: kiryandil
FR is getting a myopic Trump-focused view of the news. Just take a look at the Palin article in Breaking News at this time. It makes it sound as though Palin won the day for Trump when she fell flat with only one applause line about Benghazi in a 20 minute speech.

But, I guess that's the narrow view that the FR Mods and apparently Jim want everyone to see. Anything that praises Trump is breaking news and ones that don't are relegated to cheese-chat.

184 posted on 04/02/2016 6:11:15 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: DrewsDad
FR is getting a myopic Trump-focused view of the news.

FR is getting a myopic Trump-bashing-focused view of the news.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:conservativejoy/index?tab=articles

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:cincinatuswife/index?tab=articles

Note the smooth handoff on March 26...

185 posted on 04/02/2016 6:39:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: kiryandil
And you feel threatened by 2 posts a day?

How many paid Trump folks are there here?

186 posted on 04/02/2016 6:56:50 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: mlizzy

“Trump: “Such an interesting question,” he said. “So what’s your next question?””

Such an interesting answer.

Is this Dowd column real? Did she actually ask him these things and get answers? Like an interview. Or is she just making things up?


187 posted on 04/02/2016 6:57:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is not about “costing” me or you, whatever that means.
A huge Trump loss will ripple down the ballot and put the Senate, the House, and state governors and legislators in grave jeopardy. And of course propel Hillary into the White House. Trump’s negatives at 70% with women who make up 53% of the electorate makes him not only unelectable by an standards, but assures landslides victories for Hillary or Bernie.

And when that occurs, Trumpkins will blame everybody else and their grandmother except themselves. Trump appears to put himself first above country and is willing to risk an independent run to satisfy his ego. Why? Because he truly believes the Trumpkins will morph into Trumpoids even if it means careening over the cliff.


188 posted on 04/02/2016 6:59:15 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: ifinnegan

Here is the article. Take a look:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/opinion/sunday/trump-does-it-his-way.html?_r=0


189 posted on 04/02/2016 7:04:37 PM PDT by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: DrewsDad
How many paid Trump folks are there here?

At least one full-timer that I know of.

190 posted on 04/02/2016 7:04:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: DrewsDad
And you feel threatened by 2 posts a day?

Boy, you just don't get it.

191 posted on 04/02/2016 7:05:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: mlizzy

It is real.

Thanks.


192 posted on 04/02/2016 7:16:12 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: kiryandil

Is it that you are ticked about not getting paid?


193 posted on 04/02/2016 7:16:59 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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This is not about “costing” me or you, whatever that means.

It meant that your posts have cost you my potential respect for your thoughts.  I welcomed the reverse from you.  I do not buy into your thoughts here at all.

A huge Trump loss will ripple down the ballot and put the Senate, the House, and state governors and legislators in grave jeopardy. And of course propel Hillary into the White House.

You have evidently bought off on the Left wing media's spin here.  I don't.

At the beginning of the process it was said that Trump's big negatives would prevent him from getting the GOP nomination.  Guess what...

Hillary has big negatives too.  Trump will capitalize on them.


Trump’s negatives at 70% with women who make up 53% of the electorate makes him not only unelectable by an standards, but assures landslides victories for Hillary or Bernie.

I hate to be brutally honest with you here, but Trump is tapping that 53% of the 70% to win the GOP nomination.  What part of this is so difficult for your to grasp?  Did you think the Republican party was a men only club?

Trump is going to come to my state and reintroduce Conservative concepts that have not been presented here since around 1988.

Why do you think the GOPe is so desperate to stop him?  They are afriad he will upend their go along to get along deal with the Democrats.

That ends with Trump, and they are terrified of the outcome.

And when that occurs, Trumpkins will blame everybody else and their grandmother except themselves.

I'm sure it has probably escaped you that all the flames tossed at Trump could be hurting his chances in November.  We tried to tell you that, but you folks would have none of it.  Don't come crying to us when we call you out for what you have done.

Trump appears to put himself first above country and is willing to risk an independent run to satisfy his ego.

This is the logic that destroyes you.  Trump is a presiential candidate leading in the polls and delegate count.  You cast this as him thinking only of himself and not caring antying about the nation.  That is just wigged out logic.  Every candidate stands up for his rights when he has played by the rules and won.  Then you try to besmirch him because he might go third party if the Republican party denies him the nomination after all the people who voted for him, all the delegates he has accumulated.  And who would the Republican party be thinking about, if they deny the winner his victory, the nomination?

The nation?  LOL.  


Why?

Well, if he plays by the rules and does what is rquired to win the nomination, he should by rights be awarded the nomination.  Are you a Conservative, or are you just playing one here?  The Conservatives I know respect rules and playing fairly.

Because he truly believes the Trumpkins will morph into Trumpoids even if it means careening over the cliff.

The only cliff that is going to be run over, will be the one the GOPe/RNC runs over if they deny Trump the nomination when he gets the 1237 delegates.

If they steal it from Trump, it will be the end of the Republican party.  It won't have 50% of it's current registered Republicans going into November if they pull that.

194 posted on 04/02/2016 7:35:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: DrewsDad

The responses to your post are quite instructive, are they not?


195 posted on 04/02/2016 7:50:06 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Yes, they are. It might be worth a psychology paper.

The mods or Jim bumped it to cheese-chat.
I've been attacked a few times and my family once.
We heard from the guy obsessed with STD's
We had several pass the loyalty test.
Lots of attacks on National Review and/or Jonah Goldberg
There were numerous agreements and some decent discussion.
There was even an honest response from a Trump suporter who knows he's a liar, but believes he is the one that will take action on the issues important to him.

196 posted on 04/02/2016 8:09:33 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: DrewsDad
It has been observed that Trump and the 2008 Obama are similar candidates in that many of their supporters viewed them as empty vessels -- which they filled with the particular virtues and policies they desired. The supporters then became loyal to their perception of what the candidate stood for.

There is, however, a key difference between the two. During his first campaign, Obama acted the "empty vessel" -- promising nothing more than "Hope & Change". Yet, as everybody on this board knew, he was anything but the innocuous figure he claimed to be. He was a Communist believer and a Muslim sympathizer, animated by a vicious anti-American impulse.

Trump, on the other hand, hasn't acted a part -- he has played himself from Day One. There's no telling what he really believes. Indeed, he doesn't appear to know himself. Not so much an "empty vessel" as a "confused vessel". Yet, as with Obama, Trump's supporters are absolutely convinced he believes what they believe -- and he will take action accordingly.

197 posted on 04/02/2016 8:43:16 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

198 posted on 04/02/2016 8:54:58 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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To: kiryandil; DrewsDad; conservativejoy
I wonder if they even realize that Ted went to McAllen Texas (Saturday, July 19th 2014) to hand out “gift baskets” and welcome illegal alien families.

Yet neither one of them see ted for what he really is, a globalist.

This is who they blindly support because they are deluded that he is a conservative. Unfortunately kiryandil, there is no waking up people like this, because they think themselves to be too smart to be fooled.

199 posted on 04/03/2016 5:14:07 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

Cruz actually went there to visit the border with Glen Beck. It was Beck’s initiative with the gifts to the kids.

It amazes me that people blow up something that doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, but over look Trump’s policy of handing out citizenship with touchback amnesty.


200 posted on 04/03/2016 6:30:15 AM PDT by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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