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Five Top Female Players Accuse U.S. Soccer of Wage Discrimination
NY Times ^ | March 31, 2016 | Andrew Das

Posted on 03/31/2016 6:11:01 AM PDT by C19fan

Five key members of the United States women’s national soccer team, the reigning Women’s World Cup and Olympic champion, have filed a federal complaint charging U.S. Soccer with wage discrimination.

In the filing, the five players contend that the women’s team is the driving economic force for U.S. Soccer, the governing body for the sport in America, even as its players are paid far less than their counterparts on the men’s national team, their lawyer, Jeffrey Kessler, said.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: gender; soccer
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When are the WNBA players going to sue?
1 posted on 03/31/2016 6:11:01 AM PDT by C19fan
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Who draws the larger crowds - men’s or women’s soccer teams?


2 posted on 03/31/2016 6:14:16 AM PDT by circlecity
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The girls ??? say they are the driving force....really??

One media report said the girls team made money and the guys actually lost money.

3 posted on 03/31/2016 6:20:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I have thoughly enjoyed women’s soccer and they play well.
They should get a Salary at least equal to the Men’s soccer.


4 posted on 03/31/2016 6:20:40 AM PDT by chatham
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To: circlecity

Integrate soccer now Equal play for equal play. If everyone on team performs equally consistent then fine. However if there is an obvious difference, screw political correctness and.


5 posted on 03/31/2016 6:21:49 AM PDT by shadeaud (Be strong when you are weak and stand up for our Constitution.)
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To: C19fan

This one is a slam dunk for the judge.


6 posted on 03/31/2016 6:22:02 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: C19fan

If people think race relations have been bruised under Barack Obama, just wait for gender issues under Princess Hillary Clinton. It will be in every aspect of society.

And it is time for 18 year old females to register for Selective Service if Clinton becomes president. You know, equality. In order to get those college loans and perhaps be alerted that they may have to fight for the Commander in Chief as she prepares the troops for battle.


7 posted on 03/31/2016 6:23:26 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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I would love to see the merchandise and ticket sales for men and women up side to side. Who sells more? That’s typically what determines an athlete’s worth. Until then I can’t really make a comment either way.


8 posted on 03/31/2016 6:24:51 AM PDT by Durbin
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To: circlecity

In this country I think the women draw as well as the men not sure of TV rights ect.


9 posted on 03/31/2016 6:25:47 AM PDT by Leto
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To: shadeaud

Anyone who draws the larger audience, live or on TV, deserves more money. Pro athletes are just entertainers and should be paid as such.


10 posted on 03/31/2016 6:27:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: onona

On an emotional level I believe the women’s players should be paid the same as the men’s players. On a logical level if the Women’s team bring in a majority of the revenue, have better ratings, better represent the US in international competitions then they should be paid more. On a business level if the men have other avenues for their skills , professional teams etc, that require salary completion and the women do not then the hard core side of me says you pay based on completion for talent.

Politically both need to be paid the same if they are competing representing the country.


11 posted on 03/31/2016 6:33:04 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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I would guess that this is going to hurt women’s’ soccer. The US team is good, but they’re a bunch of lesbians to begin with, and now they’re proving to be crybabies as well.


12 posted on 03/31/2016 6:35:26 AM PDT by IronJack
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The men do.

FIFA PAYING WOMEN’S WORLD CUP VICTORS LESS THAN MALE LOSERS NOT SEXISM, JUST BASIC MATH

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2015/07/06/fifa-paying-womens-world-cup-victors-less-than-men-not-sexism-just-basic-math/


13 posted on 03/31/2016 6:40:21 AM PDT by aresmars
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Five Top Female Players Accuse U.S. Soccer Fans Of Misogyny For Not Liking Them More Than The Men
14 posted on 03/31/2016 6:40:37 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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Challenge the men’s national team and bet your paychecks against theirs. Show the world you are equal in ability and then you can rightfully make the case for equal pay.

Or, if the women can demonstrate that they are generating equal or greater ticket sales and revenue, regardless of their ability on the field, they’d have a rightful grievance (a stronger one).

If they are neither better field than men nor better revenue generators than men, they have no case (assuming we still live in a sane world).


15 posted on 03/31/2016 6:44:39 AM PDT by PTBAA
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Along with laws that mandate equal pay, they also need laws that require an equal number of fans in the stands and viewers watching on TV.


16 posted on 03/31/2016 6:51:22 AM PDT by Will88
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To: C19fan
An interesting case here...

Should the terms negotiated by one union be declared illegal because another union who happens to represent men demanded and got more?

Seems like the simplistic answer is for both players unions to join forces and merge.

Now for the nasty dose of reality... The captain of the USMNT is Clint Dempsey, who pulls down a record $6.9 million a year (roughly $345,000 per start.) The captain of the USWNT is Christie Rampone and appears to rake down a whopping $32,000 per season (roughly $1,600 per start.)

Her salary from USWNT is 2.25 times her entire salary from her professional soccer team (which plays in New Jersey at Rutgers University.) Clint Dempsey's USMNT salary is less than half of one start for Seattle's Sounders. (And incidentally, his salary is higher than the entire payroll of more than half the teams in MLS...)

I think there is a clear case of discrimination; the men's labor union is not demanding anywhere near enough money if they are being paid such paltry sums compared to their normal ‘salary’ with their MLS teams. And it further appears that the women's team should give back some of their salary, as they are currently collecting more than what any women's MLS soccer team offers their star players.

17 posted on 03/31/2016 6:58:22 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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The women league draws larger crowds than the men, but that is the wrong question. What is the greater revenue, and what is the competition for top talent. The men’s game is a dog fight for top talent since it is a world wide enterprise that packs the crowds into stadiums even at the lower levels. The women’s version is dominated by the U.S. with the other teams hanging on. If there was real wage competition for women players, our women would be playing in Germany, Italy and the UK.

There argument is a liberal one, we deserve it, its not fair.


18 posted on 03/31/2016 7:01:01 AM PDT by centurion316
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The women league draws larger crowds than the men, but that is the wrong question.

I think you meant to say that the other way around; an overestimation of attendance at women's professional soccer places it at just over 5,000 per game (an astounding feat considering only four of the 9 teams even have the capacity in their fields to handle those crowds.) MLS on the other hand draws an average of 21,000 per game.

At the world level, even dropping ticket prices down to $5 per seat, the opening round games for the Women's championship could barely draw 5,000, whereas the men's opening rounds were pulling down an average of 53,000.

19 posted on 03/31/2016 7:27:27 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Don’t have a men’s team and a women’s team but just have a single USA soccer team. Men can tryout, women can tryout, and who makes the team is based on their ability to play soccer.

But I’m sure that’s a little too much liberty for liberals to handle.


20 posted on 03/31/2016 7:29:18 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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