Posted on 03/07/2016 7:31:11 PM PST by Pan_Yan
The current controversy over Australias Future Submarine Program, its schedule and the associated life-of-type of the current Collins class has resulted in much hyperbole as to the difficulties associated with keeping elderly boats in operation. A quick survey of the state of affairs in the major submarine operators overseas may provide some context to concerns that the Collins class will have to run for well over thirty years of service.
In the United States, four Los Angeles class nuclear powered attack submarines (SSNs) are scheduled for decommissioning in 2017 after thirty-six years service, while the hull life of the Ohio class nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) has been extended to forty-two years. There have and will be earlier removals from service, such as a thirty-three year old Los Angeles class unit in 2015 and a thirty-one year old boat in 2016, but its likely that thirty-four to thirty-five years will be the average as the SSN force changes over to the new, but less numerous Virginia class. The French are in much the same position. If the Barracuda class SSN program runs on time, the first of the earlier Rubis class will be replaced in service after thirty-four years in commission. If the current fleet of SSBN is replaced on schedule, this will happen around 2035, when the first of the Le Triomphant class will be thirty-eight years old.
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I wouldn’t feel safe in ANY submarine.
Only if it was Yellow.
the first 688 class (los angeles) subs were commisioned in 1976
I’m a plankowner of one of the last ones.
Sure. Just tell me what the examination of the HY-80 and HY-100 steel shows first.
And let’s stay away from crush depth.
As long as it stayed on the surface.
Of course I’d feel safe — as long as it stayed dockside and didn’t submerge.
You would never get me in one.
I have fairly serious claustrophobia.
Aren’t they planning to keep the B-52 for 75-80 years before they retire?
Planes can get re-skinned and have supports replaced. Not so easy on subs.
Maybe the submarine Seaview....especially if Barbara Eden was still onboard!
Replacing wing spars and/or ribs on a B-52 would be comparable to shipyard work. Just not as much of it and certainly not as much cutting.
Yes, but with major upgrades and retro fitting.
maybe i was thinking of the Victoria-class boats the Canadians bought that had all the problems
sorry, I’m not a Navy guy, so I have to ask: What is a plankowner?
” an individual who was a member of the crew of a United States Navy ship or United States Coast Guard cutter when that ship was placed in commission”
I like scary tight spots. I like spelunking and crawling through caves on my belly. Always have.
However, I was allowed on a sub (I think it was the USS Bluefin, last of the diesels) when I was about 20. It was a surreal experience. It was definitely unsafe - every few feet I hit my head, and pipes/equipment were coming out from everywhere - you either had to duck under them or step over them constantly. The interior smelled of sweat and chemicals. It was an oppressive experience.
I cannot fathom going to sea in that.
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